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RE: I knew the Saints were bitter but damn. - AsylumGuido - 02-06-2013 04:45 PM
(02-06-2013 04:08 PM)papachaz Wrote: this post, along with his last one addressed to me, should show beyond any doubt that he doesn't even read completely through posts before he trolls and argues against them.
he quoted my post where I said 'I was in NO back in October" and now has to ask when my trip was. just go away troll
I have another question for you. Where did you park and where did you go? If you parked anywhere near Jackson Square you would most certainly be hit by the smell of urine, although it will not be human. That is where all of the horse and mule drawn carriages are centered. Bourbon Street will also carry strong smells which include soured beer. But as I mentioned, most of the French Quarter smells of fine food rather than anything else.
RE: I knew the Saints were bitter but damn. - RFlagg - 02-06-2013 04:58 PM
(02-06-2013 02:58 PM)AsylumGuido Wrote: Sure there is bias, but there is also a great deal of truth. The 300th birthday of the city is going to be huge and it gives the NFL even that much more exposure. New Orleans is already working toward that special year and will be able to put forth a bid that could not be matched.
Ok, let's play the "Who's most likely to host the Super Bowl" game.
Currently assigned Super Bowls
2014 - New York
2015 - Arizona
2016 Candidates
Miami
San Francisco
2017 Candidates
San Francisco
Houston
Source
So we know those teams will not host the 2018 Super Bowl. Now, we also know that Minnesota will be opening a new Dome stadium by 2018, and that has helped a lot of cities secure the Super Bowl. So I think that jumps them way up the list. Also, there is still the outside possibility that the Falcons will have a new stadium by that time (if a deal gets done), so I think they would be on the list as well.
So that's definitely Minnesota, maybe Atlanta. Now let's look at past hosts. Anyone that thinks the Super Bowl in Indianapolis wasn't a raging success is kidding themselves, and they have already announced they are pursuing the 2018 Super Bowl. Then there is Dallas and JerryWorld, which everyone said hosted a successful Super Bowl in 2011, despite all the ice.
So right there, we have Minnesota, Atlanta, Indianapolis, and Dallas. And now, one final nugget. The NFL invited (yes, INVITED) Denver to bid for the 2018 Super Bowl. Source
Bids are due by May of 2014, but right now, the list of candidates looks like:
Minnesota (New Stadium)
Atlanta (If Blank can get a deal done and break ground in time, otherwise cross us off)
Denver (Fucking invited to bid by the NFL)
Dallas (2011 Host)
Indianapolis (2012 Host)
New Orleans (2013 Host)
So, tell me again how New Orleans bid can't be matched?
RE: I knew the Saints were bitter but damn. - AsylumGuido - 02-06-2013 05:31 PM
(02-06-2013 04:58 PM)RFlagg Wrote: Ok, let's play the "Who's most likely to host the Super Bowl" game.
Currently assigned Super Bowls
2014 - New York
2015 - Arizona
2016 Candidates
Miami
San Francisco
2017 Candidates
San Francisco
Houston
Source
So we know those teams will not host the 2018 Super Bowl. Now, we also know that Minnesota will be opening a new Dome stadium by 2018, and that has helped a lot of cities secure the Super Bowl. So I think that jumps them way up the list. Also, there is still the outside possibility that the Falcons will have a new stadium by that time (if a deal gets done), so I think they would be on the list as well.
So that's definitely Minnesota, maybe Atlanta. Now let's look at past hosts. Anyone that thinks the Super Bowl in Indianapolis wasn't a raging success is kidding themselves, and they have already announced they are pursuing the 2018 Super Bowl. Then there is Dallas and JerryWorld, which everyone said hosted a successful Super Bowl in 2011, despite all the ice.
So right there, we have Minnesota, Atlanta, Indianapolis, and Dallas. And now, one final nugget. The NFL invited (yes, INVITED) Denver to bid for the 2018 Super Bowl. Source
Bids are due by May of 2014, but right now, the list of candidates looks like:
Minnesota (New Stadium)
Atlanta (If Blank can get a deal done and break ground in time, otherwise cross us off)
Denver (Fucking invited to bid by the NFL)
Dallas (2011 Host)
Indianapolis (2012 Host)
New Orleans (2013 Host)
So, tell me again how New Orleans bid can't be matched?
It takes far more than just a stadium to host the Super Bowl. It takes the infrastructure. Here are the criteria:
source
Each November, the NFL issues a 200- to 300-page bid book to cities looking to host the game. Draft bids are due in April, and the NFL’s 32 owners vote on the location at an owners’ meeting sometime thereafter. Baseline hosting requirements, according to SportsBusiness Journal, include the following:
A 70,000-seat stadium or one that can be expanded to at least that size
At least 19,000 hotel rooms that require three- or four-night minimum stays, including rooms for both teams and NFL personnel
A range of nearby facilities or spaces to house the media and accreditation center for more than 4,000 media representatives, the NFL Experience, the NFL Tailgate Party, and the like
An average daily temperature of 50 degrees Fahrenheit (10 °C) or above the week of the game, or a climate-controlled indoor facility
Provision of police, fire, ambulance, and other infrastructure services at no cost to the NFL
Over the years, insiders indicate that the politics of the bid process have ratcheted up considerably—as have the perks. The 2007 Miami bid committee threw in the use of a yacht for each of the 32 owners, while Tampa offered all the teams free golf. The 2011 North Texas group went green instead, offering the NFL an additional $1 million to cover game-day expenses at Cowboys Stadium, enticing enough as that new facility is on its own.
Miami and New Orleans best meet all of these criteria. That is why New Orleans has hosted so many and will host many more. There is no question that they will remain in a frequent rotation. Now, 2018 coincides with the city's 300th birthday and would be a major media draw for the NFL. No one else can match that alone. On top of that, New Orleans is already planning to submit a bid (monetarily) that no other site can match. This is all about advertising. It is all about money. The owners make the decision on the Super Bowl site. Benson will have had his politicking done at that time. He will have cut deals with a majority of owners to ensure the 2018 date. I wouldn't be surprised if there were no other bids for that year.
RE: I knew the Saints were bitter but damn. - papachaz - 02-06-2013 05:52 PM
(02-06-2013 04:45 PM)AsylumGuido Wrote: I have another question for you. Where did you park and where did you go? If you parked anywhere near Jackson Square you would most certainly be hit by the smell of urine, although it will not be human. That is where all of the horse and mule drawn carriages are centered. Bourbon Street will also carry strong smells which include soured beer. But as I mentioned, most of the French Quarter smells of fine food rather than anything else.
we parked on Toulouse Street, a block from Bourbon Street. we walked the block to bourbon street, up a couple of blocks, back down and beyond another block, and then back to the car. I'd seen and smelled enough to realize that spending my first 55 years without going there was actually pretty smart.
We weren't close enough to Jackson Square for it to be the horses. I have owned horses and actually have access to some now, the smell of the stables would be something I'd be familiar with, and no, what we smelled was not horses. plain and simple it was the stench of piss in the streets. Locals or tourists doesn't matter, piss is piss. they either do it themselves, or don't care enough to clean it up after the tourists leave. so apparently smelling piss all the time isn't a bother to them. I'd bet it's both
so are you going to deal with the article, or continue to ignore it. nah, nevermind, I'd be pretty sure you haven't read this far, and you won't deal with the real issues, you're only here to troll LMAO
RE: I knew the Saints were bitter but damn. - Aftermath - 02-06-2013 06:02 PM
This thread is getting a bit off track, I'm going to close it now because it has the potential to get out of hand.
RE: I knew the Saints were bitter but damn. - AsylumGuido - 02-06-2013 06:09 PM
(02-06-2013 05:52 PM)papachaz Wrote: we parked on Toulouse Street, a block from Bourbon Street. we walked the block to bourbon street, up a couple of blocks, back down and beyond another block, and then back to the car. I'd seen and smelled enough to realize that spending my first 55 years without going there was actually pretty smart.
We weren't close enough to Jackson Square for it to be the horses. I have owned horses and actually have access to some now, the smell of the stables would be something I'd be familiar with, and no, what we smelled was not horses. plain and simple it was the stench of piss in the streets. Locals or tourists doesn't matter, piss is piss. they either do it themselves, or don't care enough to clean it up after the tourists leave. so apparently smelling piss all the time isn't a bother to them. I'd bet it's both
so are you going to deal with the article, or continue to ignore it. nah, nevermind, I'd be pretty sure you haven't read this far, and you won't deal with the real issues, you're only here to troll LMAO
Yes I read the article. I had read it previous to your posting of it. What is the significance of it? It basically said that a great deal was spent on external wiring this past Fall.
So you based your whole opinion of New Orleans on a two block area of Bourbon Street? I can say my favorite spot on Bourbon is at the corner of Toulouse, the Old Opera House. Great classic rock joint. As for the smell of piss in that area, it is really hard to tell because the smell of soured beer is so strong between cleanups and/or rain.
This whole time you have been blasting the city of New Orleans and have only seen a tiny portion of the least common denominator of all. Unbelievable.
RE: I knew the Saints were bitter but damn. - papachaz - 02-06-2013 06:09 PM
(02-06-2013 06:02 PM)Aftermath Wrote: This thread is getting a bit off track, I'm going to close it now because it has the potential to get out of hand.
LOL.....good one, gonna plus 1 you for that. and to add to it just a bit, the infrastructure in NO was in question months ago, and a local firm hired to work on fixing the problems, and yet, there was a major infrastructure failure causing half the lights in the superdome to go out. and yet the troll wants to tout the infrastructure as the reason the superbowl will be back there in 5 years. to me that's just funny
RE: I knew the Saints were bitter but damn. - papachaz - 02-06-2013 06:18 PM
isn't the French Qtr and Bourbon street the most 'famous' part of NO? (other than the dome) so it only made sense to me to check out that part of it. yeah, only a few blocks were needed to use my deductive reasoning and what my college instructors called an extremely good analytical mind to determine I'd seen and smelled enough. there really wasn't any point to wasting any more of my time trying to find a spot that didn't smell like piss.
we did drive around a bit before we got back to really living by getting the hell out of there.
RE: I knew the Saints were bitter but damn. - AsylumGuido - 02-06-2013 06:18 PM
(02-06-2013 06:09 PM)papachaz Wrote: LOL.....good one, gonna plus 1 you for that. and to add to it just a bit, the infrastructure in NO was in question months ago, and a local firm hired to work on fixing the problems, and yet, there was a major infrastructure failure causing half the lights in the superdome to go out. and yet the troll wants to tout the infrastructure as the reason the superbowl will be back there in 5 years. to me that's just funny
First, there was no "major infrastructure failure". All of the electrical systems had been replaced. That is what the independent study is about ... finding the fault that threw the safety switch. And the infrastructure of which I speak pertains to accommodations, restaurants, transportation and entertainment all in a compact area. Your response is better defined as trolling by not letting the facts stand in the way of a vindictive post.
RE: I knew the Saints were bitter but damn. - AsylumGuido - 02-06-2013 06:32 PM
(02-06-2013 06:18 PM)papachaz Wrote: isn't the French Qtr and Bourbon street the most 'famous' part of NO? (other than the dome) so it only made sense to me to check out that part of it. yeah, only a few blocks were needed to use my deductive reasoning and what my college instructors called an extremely good analytical mind to determine I'd seen and smelled enough. there really wasn't any point to wasting any more of my time trying to find a spot that didn't smell like piss.
we did drive around a bit before we got back to really living by getting the hell out of there.
As I mentioned earlier, Bourbon Street is very famous, but can be seen in a few minutes if one chooses. The full French Quarter encompasses much more area and includes everything from museums to high end art galleries, from world renowned restaurants to beautiful cathedrals, from five star hotels to 200 year old bars. And that is only a tiny part of New Orleans. There are the Parks, the Garden District, the zoo and the aquarium. There are the riverboats and the riverfront, and there is the lakefront, as well.