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RE: I knew the Saints were bitter but damn. - phocis850 - 02-09-2013 01:17 PM
(02-09-2013 12:24 PM)AsylumGuido Wrote: It is common knowledge that J'ville fell far short of the required 20,000 - 30,000 hotel rooms with easy access required to successfully host the game.
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5. Jacksonville in 2005. Jacksonville had rain, cold, and a spread-out Super Bowl plan without mass transit. (The Bay Area would have been better, but…) Like other Super Bowls, the planners tried to concentrate a lot of event stuff downtown, and even used cruise ships as hotels, which didn’t go over well with my friends who went.
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Super Bowls usually produce price gouging complaints. But, as a story about today’s Super Bowl reports, rates in Indianapolis may have a particularly strong mark-up because of the relatively small host city. “This is what happens when the NFL books the nation’s largest sporting event in a city with only 6,000 hotel rooms. … By population, Indianapolis is the smallest Super Bowl city since Jacksonville, Fla., which hosted a disastrous game in 2005.”
You post 3 blog posts to back up your claim?
The Superbowl in Jacksonville happened during bad weather. Shit happens.
Overall, Jacksonville still had a plan, but it wasn't executed correctly.
On another note. Why does anyone care about the power outage cause? Lights went out and came back after a while. WHO CARES
RE: I knew the Saints were bitter but damn. - AsylumGuido - 02-09-2013 01:23 PM
New York Times article here.
Cause Found for Blackout in Big Game
The power failure that plunged the Super Bowl into darkness and halted play for more than a half-hour Sunday was caused by a device installed specifically to prevent a blackout.
Entergy New Orleans, the company that supplies power to the Superdome, announced Friday that the device, called a relay, had been installed in switching gear to protect the Superdome from a cable failure between the company’s incoming power line and the lines that run into the stadium.
The device, which Entergy officials said had performed with no trouble during last month’s Sugar Bowl and other events, has since been removed and will be replaced.
The Superdome is scheduled to host a Mardi Gras event this weekend. All systems are working now, the officials said. An independent investigation, which some public officials have pressed for, remains a possibility.
The power failure stopped the game between the Baltimore Ravens and the San Francisco 49ers early in the third quarter, and seemed to switch the momentum from what appeared to be a rout by the Ravens to one of the most thrilling Super Bowls.
The Ravens won, 34-31, after a goal-line stand late in the fourth quarter. The Superdome never went completely dark — a few banks of lights remained on throughout the delay — but the light was dim, the scoreboards were black, and CBS lost much of its ability to broadcast.
Entergy and SMG, which manages the Superdome, had upgraded electrical lines and other equipment in the months before the Super Bowl. The faulty relay was part of a $4.2 million upgrade by Entergy. Entergy officials were scheduled to appear before a committee of the City Council on Friday to explain the blackout.
The SMG executive Doug Thornton said Friday that the Superdome was using only about two-thirds of its power capacity Sunday night.
“I’m pleased that we were able to find the root cause,” Thornton said.
For New Orleans and the N.F.L., the power failure was an embarrassment at the end of what had been seen as a successful return to a traditional Super Bowl site. It was the first time the game had been played in New Orleans since Hurricane Katrina in 2005.
Two years ago, the Super Bowl organizers in the Dallas area were criticized for poor planning in dealing with an ice storm and for a failure to install the promised number of seats. Those problems may hurt Dallas’s effort to secure a future game.
But Commissioner Roger Goodell insisted Monday that the power failure would not harm New Orleans’s chance of hosting another Super Bowl. The city is expected to bid to host the game in 2018, the city’s tricentennial.
RE: I knew the Saints were bitter but damn. - juraitwaluzka - 02-09-2013 01:36 PM
(02-09-2013 01:23 PM)AsylumGuido Wrote: But Commissioner Roger Goodell insisted Monday that the power failure would not harm New Orleans’s chance of hosting another Super Bowl.
Well there you go, it obviously does affect the chance that New Orleans will get the Superbowl since it was clearly established in the bounty thread that Roger Goodell is a liar.
RE: I knew the Saints were bitter but damn. - Beef - 02-09-2013 02:44 PM
(02-09-2013 12:08 PM)AsylumGuido Wrote: The part did not go faulty. Do you not have any grasp of reality? The operator that installed the equipment set the threshold too low which caused the shut down of a section of the lights. It was "just as I figured" when the day before it was found to be related to a switchgear device. I said at that time that someone had probably configured it incorrectly which was EXACTLY what it turned out to be.
Why do you insist on arguing every little thing I post on this board? Do you have some sort of complex?
Because I'm trying to prove a point. Why are you ignoring the fact that you said this was "all on the NFL" at first?
This is a clear example of you saying something that wasn't correct and then ignoring that you said it.
It's a clear example of you acting like you always do and you being delusional about it.
I mean everyone knows you improperly blamed the NFL and yet you've done everything possible to avoid acknowledging that mistake. And you don't think that's a problem. And you don't realize you do it on virtually everything.
You're very messed up in the head. You have no idea how often you do this.
RE: I knew the Saints were bitter but damn. - AsylumGuido - 02-09-2013 05:47 PM
(02-09-2013 01:36 PM)juraitwaluzka Wrote: Well there you go, it obviously does affect the chance that New Orleans will get the Superbowl since it was clearly established in the bounty thread that Roger Goodell is a liar.
Fortunately, Roger Goodell has no say in where the Super Bowl is held. That is a direct vote by the 32 owners.
RE: I knew the Saints were bitter but damn. - AsylumGuido - 02-09-2013 05:56 PM
(02-09-2013 02:44 PM)Beef Wrote: Because I'm trying to prove a point. Why are you ignoring the fact that you said this was "all on the NFL" at first?
This is a clear example of you saying something that wasn't correct and then ignoring that you said it.
It's a clear example of you acting like you always do and you being delusional about it.
I mean everyone knows you improperly blamed the NFL and yet you've done everything possible to avoid acknowledging that mistake. And you don't think that's a problem. And you don't realize you do it on virtually everything.
You're very messed up in the head. You have no idea how often you do this.
I simply went off what I had read at the time. As new facts come out I adjust. You for some reason grasp upon MY first comment. What about papachaz claiming it was a major infrastructure failure? I don't see you slamming him.
I understand you don't like me, but it makes your arguments irrational and rigid to a fault.
I am no different than anyone else on this board who throws out early opinions on topics. That is all it is. You have targeted me ever since I joined this board. You may not even realize that.
You're very messed up in the head. You have no idea how often you do this.
RE: I knew the Saints were bitter but damn. - RFlagg - 02-09-2013 06:17 PM
(02-09-2013 05:56 PM)AsylumGuido Wrote: I simply went off what I had read at the time. As new facts come out I adjust. You for some reason grasp upon MY first comment. What about papachaz claiming it was a major infrastructure failure? I don't see you slamming him.
I understand you don't like me, but it makes your arguments irrational and rigid to a fault.
I am no different than anyone else on this board who throws out early opinions on topics. That is all it is. You have targeted me ever since I joined this board. You may not even realize that.
You're very messed up in the head. You have no idea how often you do this.
The reason we aren't jumping on papachaz is because he isn't claiming something is "just as he figured" when, in fact, it is a different opinion from what you first "figured". Yes, we realize people can change your opinion, but that doesn't mean you can disregard what you first claimed.
You made a statement, you need to own it, even if it was wrong.
RE: I knew the Saints were bitter but damn. - Drathdon - 02-09-2013 08:13 PM
RFlagg, no one could have said that better. Too bad it will still be ignored.
RE: I knew the Saints were bitter but damn. - papachaz - 02-10-2013 10:49 AM
I would guess that no one is "jumping on" me because I wasn't talking out of my ass. The main feed into something the size of the superdome, in my estimation, be most likely be considered by most people with any bit of common sense, to be a 'major infrastructure' concerning the dome.
Beside the fact that I was going off what I read in that article and not just talking out of my ass.
Through in the fact (as much as I know you hate those guido, sometimes they're like taxes, you just can't ignore them) that it was a 'local genius' that incorrectly programmed the part makes it better. especially when the whole purpose of that part is to prevent exactly what it caused. absolutely priceless to all rivals and absoultely embarrassing to the city those who responsible for making sure that part of the 'infrastructure' didn't fail.
RE: I knew the Saints were bitter but damn. - AsylumGuido - 02-10-2013 01:55 PM
(02-09-2013 06:17 PM)RFlagg Wrote: The reason we aren't jumping on papachaz is because he isn't claiming something is "just as he figured" when, in fact, it is a different opinion from what you first "figured". Yes, we realize people can change your opinion, but that doesn't mean you can disregard what you first claimed.
You made a statement, you need to own it, even if it was wrong.
I did claim it and said that I was initially wrong. When I said "just as I figured" it was referring to the relay from the post the day before.
Beef, is as his nature, took something out of context to try to prove me wrong. I have never encountered anyone who continues to go to such extremes.