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RE: Sean Payton agrees to multi-year contract with Saints - AsylumGuido - 01-17-2013 07:39 PM
(01-13-2013 06:29 PM)Drathdon Wrote: Guess you're going to have to watch us play at least one more week while your team sits on the couch. Worried we're going to party in your house yet?
Nope. Not in the least worried.
Re: RE: Sean Payton agrees to multi-year contract with Saints - juraitwaluzka - 01-17-2013 08:54 PM
(01-17-2013 07:36 PM)AsylumGuido Wrote: I expect they will take the suit to a higher court. Sorry, but it isn't over.
Wait, it hasn't been a few weeks yet? :-D
RE: Sean Payton agrees to multi-year contract with Saints - mdrake34 - 01-17-2013 10:22 PM
Yes, Guido, he can "take this to a higher court." That means he can appeal the Judge's decision to dismiss the case to the United States Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit. It will then take months, if not close to a year before they decide the limited issue of whether the District Court Judge abused her discretion by dismissing the case. If they rule that she did not, case over. If they rule that she did, they remand it to her and the case goes. Minimum year and a half from now before that point, unless the NFL magic keeps on fast tracking this case over other more deserving cases on the docket.
Vilma doesn't get to file this thing in the US Supreme Court and have an episode of law and order. I really think you fail to realize how boring and totally non-glamorous federal litigation is, especially at the appellate level.
RE: Sean Payton agrees to multi-year contract with Saints - JDaveG - 01-18-2013 08:05 AM
(01-17-2013 07:36 PM)AsylumGuido Wrote: I expect they will take the suit to a higher court. Sorry, but it isn't over.
Your problem is you have bought into the web of half-truths you've spun over the past year. Probably the biggest half truth being that Vilma is in this for "vindication."
Let's assume that's true. Let's assume he knows he can't win the lawsuit, but intends to bring it just to "get the truth out." There is a huge problem with that scenario that should be obvious to anyone who doesn't have an agenda (you know -- anyone who didn't think Judge Berrigan was going to rule for Vilma just because a couple of reporters quoted her, likely out of context, as saying she wanted to). The problem is, the federal court system exists to resolve disputes, not to let people tell their story. If he wants to tell his story, he can go on Oprah. In court, he has to have a justiciable controversy that he can actually win, or they throw it out.
Of course, at the beginning of this, those of us with legal training were saying it's unlikely he gets past judgment on the pleadings. Do you find it interesting at all, Guido, that Vilma wasn't even allowed to complete discovery in this case? That the judge threw it out before he was even allowed to move forward with asking all the questions you think he should have been allowed to ask? Have you considered why she might do that? Have you considered what that might say about his chances of success on appeal? To a notoriously business/defense friendly 5th Circuit Court of Appeals?
RE: Sean Payton agrees to multi-year contract with Saints - JDaveG - 01-18-2013 08:13 AM
P.S., watch this:
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:8855366
RE: Sean Payton agrees to multi-year contract with Saints - papachaz - 01-18-2013 12:45 PM
(01-18-2013 08:13 AM)JDaveG Wrote: P.S., watch this:
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:8855366
of all the people to give an opinion on this, Pat Y is the absolutel LAST on the list I'll pay any attention to. We have you lawyers here on the board I'd put my stock in believing, Pat's not really even a good reporter, much less a lawyer, LOL
while the "judge" said she didn't like the way Roger handled his investigation, and that he was 'heavy handed', did she ever at ALL say that she thought what he did was deliberately malicious, isn't that what 'defamation' is about?
I hope the idiot does waste more of his money trying to appeal, maybe we'll read about him winding up broke and flipping burgers in one of the dumps down on bourbon street
RE: Sean Payton agrees to multi-year contract with Saints - JDaveG - 01-18-2013 12:50 PM
(01-18-2013 12:45 PM)papachaz Wrote: of all the people to give an opinion on this, Pat Y is the absolutel LAST on the list I'll pay any attention to. We have you lawyers here on the board I'd put my stock in believing, Pat's not really even a good reporter, much less a lawyer, LOL
I'd agree, except Pat's analysis was pretty much spot on. He's apparently talked to some folks who know what they are talking about, whether he does or not.
Quote:while the "judge" said she didn't like the way Roger handled his investigation, and that he was 'heavy handed', did she ever at ALL say that she thought what he did was deliberately malicious, isn't that what 'defamation' is about?
I hope the idiot does waste more of his money trying to appeal, maybe we'll read about him winding up broke and flipping burgers in one of the dumps down on bourbon street
Apparently, she didn't think there was any malice, or she wouldn't have dismissed the case.