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RE: why am I not concerned ? - ATLBound - 12-09-2012 09:31 PM
(12-09-2012 08:03 PM)Aftermath Wrote: we shouldn't be "trying to figure things out" in the last 4 weeks of the season IMO. We know what we can and cannot do by now, nothing is going to change that, we are what we are, we need to play to our strengths and scheme around our weaknesses instead of the other way around.
The Giants were last year
The Packers were 2 years ago
What makes us any different? Because we were winninh and they weren't?
As much as people blame Smitty for thinking one way amd sticking to it, you sure are doing the same. You have a way that you would like to see the team perform at certain times of the year and if it doesnt fit your standard then we're doomed.
I'm sure plenty of Giants fans were mortified after they lost to he Redskins, of whom were also at the bottom of the division.
Heres the problem with the doom and gloom squad. Some of the others who hated this loss as well have to react extra positive because ya'll are so overboard.
There were at least 3 posters, of whom I will not call out, that said because of this loss we will be one and done in the playoffs. Thats retarded.
This was definitely a horrible lost. The way we played was pretty bad, but to act as if we cant bounce back is the annoying part, not the fact that people are upset over the win.
RE: why am I not concerned ? - Greg M - 12-09-2012 09:38 PM
I became concerned a little ways into the 4th quarter.. but then.. conference opponents that you have played for years twice a season are never easy wins.
RE: why am I not concerned ? - Aftermath - 12-09-2012 09:52 PM
(12-09-2012 09:31 PM)ATLBound Wrote: The Giants were last yearI think there is a good deal different between the Falcons and the Packers/Giants. For one M. Smith is no Coughlin or McCarthy, and Ryan is no Rodgers or Manning. I don't think this team has the mental toughness to do an about face when they hit the playoffs and start firing on all cylinders. Can it happen? sure. Do I think it will happen? hell no.
I don't think anyone said that we will lose in the playoffs solely b/c of this game, that would be foolish. Myself and other have stated that given their recent body of work and regression on offense the Falcons appear to be poised to go 1 and done again in the playoffs. This game was not played in a vacuum, everything else they have done during the season comes into play when forming such an opinion. I myself thought that the Falcons would be 1 and done after the first Saints game and I haven't seen much of anything to make me change my mind.
Yeah, I might think one way and stick to it but fortunately I'm not the HC of a billion dollar NFL team so what I think about the Falcons and football in general doesn't really matter. Sure it might piss some people off and allow others to pretend like they are "real fans" but ultimately my opinion on the matter is completely irrelevant.
I'm not suggesting that we can't bounce back either, we could thrash the Giants next weekend but based on the recent history of this team, the track record of our HC and QB in big games (especially the playoffs) and our obvious regression on offense I think it is quite reasonable to assume that this team will once again be 1 and done in the playoffs. Can we win a playoff game? sure, but I wouldn't put any money on it.
RE: why am I not concerned ? - ATLBound - 12-09-2012 10:16 PM
(12-09-2012 09:52 PM)Aftermath Wrote: I think there is a good deal different between the Falcons and the Packers/Giants. For one M. Smith is no Coughlin or McCarthy, and Ryan is no Rodgers or Manning. I don't think this team has the mental toughness to do an about face when they hit the playoffs and start firing on all cylinders. Can it happen? sure. Do I think it will happen? hell no.
But who was Mcarthy before that season...matter of fact, who was Rodgers. That was Rodgers coming out party that year. What's the idea of progression?
Im not comparing the two as far as how great of a player they are, but who was Belicheck before the Super Bowls with the Pats. Who was Peyton Manning when he went 0-3.
All of these people are great players and coaches but who were they before then? History is just that....history. It doesn't speak for the present at all. I've seen a difference in this team from previous years in the little things....some haven't.
I'm honestly just ready to fast forward to the playoffs because nobody is really going to change their stance until whatever happens happens.
Some will be more optimistic and obviously more pessimistic.
I apologize for the response before in regards to people equating this loss to a definite loss in the playoffs. Thats how it came off to me and it might have been an immediate reaction to the loss.
Perspectively speaking we are and have been better on both sides of the ball this year than we have been since 2008. Lets just think about that for a second.
RE: why am I not concerned ? - Drathdon - 12-09-2012 11:50 PM
Posted this in an older thread (I'm catching up), but this belonged here instead, with some additions.
We're not playing for anything right now. Hard to get fired up over nothing. Panties were playing for their jobs. We played not to get hurt.
Looking at the schedule, we want to win next week, not this week. This week means nothing if we win next week.
So the guys looked ahead. With 11 wins, I'll allow that. So long as they win next week, people will be talking us up, and this game won't matter. Even if we won today, we lose next week this one won't matter.
Essentially, this game didn't matter. We played like it. Big deal. We came out expecting to win without effort... big mistake, but one we could afford. Hopefully it taught us something. Long, hard seasons are hard to stay 100% focused on when early success happens. Our funk is from a lack of targets we feel necessary to attack with all our might. Next week should again give us one.
Let's get that win next week against the defending champs, and rest until the playoffs!
RE: why am I not concerned ? - phocis850 - 12-11-2012 11:51 AM
I agree. We didn't play for anything.
What did we have to prove that last game?
However, we looked as though we weren't even prepared... even after a long week off.
That is the thing that concerns me.
Maybe they were told to take it easy since this Giants game is the most important.
We have the opportunity to possibly help push them out of the race. And we beat WASH before so, we could do that again.
Even if we lose next week, I want to see a team that executes on offense and defense. I want to see a complete game.
RE: why am I not concerned ? - Jesus - 12-11-2012 12:46 PM
I don't quite get the bashing of our QB and HC. Together they have never lost back to back games. That means they rally from mistakes and miscues and win games. So we lost. We lost really because of two big plays. The Newton run and the screen that closed the front door. I believe both came on 3rd down. Had we stopped both of those than we could have had a legitimate shot to win the game. Our D was gassed and playing with our 3rd and 4th string corners out there. Had Asante been healthy and on Smith I think we might have had a better chance, but he was open every time Newton needed a big play.
Saying that the team is never prepared after long breaks in nonsense. We do very well coming off the bye. It is traditional for most coaches to give time off after a win or during a long break. At this point in the season you are ready or not physically. You can watch film anywhere. It is obvious that our team prepares just as hard as any other. We lost, it happens.
Looking at the Giants they are one of the most schizophrenic teams out there. Look at their last five games
Home v Pitt L 20-24
Road v Cincy L 13-31
Home v GB W 38-10
Road v Wash L 16-17
Home v NO W 52-27
How do you explain that? You think our team has problems with consistency?
We match up pretty well: each with a top 10 offense and a top 10 scoring D.
At home with something to prove and a reason to win: We can clinch HFA this week with a win and a loss by SF (at NE - can happen) and a loss by GB (at Chi - can happen)
I like our chances.
RE: why am I not concerned ? - phocis850 - 12-11-2012 03:30 PM
I can see CHI beating GB this week. They've been a mess, but its divisional and the Bears have something to prove.
I honestly think this was a good game for a wake up call. We need to be steady and consistent these next 3 games. We can't keep going into these games where one side of the ball is playing significantly better than the other. I am 100% sure that the locker room will NOT tolerate another one and done season. We are a lock so I'm not sure what the coaches are doing. I just hope they don't make us look like fools coming into our first playoff game this year.
If we do lose the first PO game, then it better have been the best damn game both teams have ever played.