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RE: TG....ONE MORE YEAR ONE MORE YEAR - FullMetalFalcon23 - 12-01-2012 04:55 PM
Gonzo is very very valuable, thats why i am saying the tight end we get must be valuable early because that is a position in our offense that produces and allows for a lot. As of right now my choices would be Gonzo/ Faruia/ Eifert or an FA signing (know nfl speed and the game already). its one hell of a piece we are losing whenever he does go and we will need at least one tight end as a receiving threat. i dont believe Michael Palmer is that guy. would be great if he is and has been learning to be the the best Tight End he can be. Despite the pass catching tight end explosion Fleener did not go until round 2. This years class is deeper and better with the top 3 Tight Ends being big and explosive Gronkowski like guys, there is no way we can't have a shot at one. For this O to dominate we are going to need one.
We are in a position to get a Julio Jones level talent at the Tight end spot without moving up. Fauria, 8 tds? on so few touches' i think he jumps eifert
RE: TG....ONE MORE YEAR ONE MORE YEAR - ATLBound - 12-01-2012 07:09 PM
I love Tony G as much as the next guy but there are two things Tony is lacking in. One because of age and the other because thats just not his game.
Run Blocking - Tony comes thru at times so he's not horrible but he isn't great.
Seam routes - Because of his age he doesn't have the
speed to bust the seams and the new TE if we were to get one should add that element to our offense that defense haven't seen before regularly.
Side note: Tony runs seam routes seemingly only in the red zone.
RE: TG....ONE MORE YEAR ONE MORE YEAR - AUTiger7222 - 12-01-2012 07:34 PM
(12-01-2012 03:23 PM)FullMetalFalcon23 Wrote: I looked over Lutz, I'm not to sure about him. He looks more like a project tight end rather than a ready to go early on. He isn't as able as Fauria and Eifert at this point right now. He is more like a number two tight end at this point who could develop rather than a number one guy who needs to grow into and expand the role.
That's because he's never had a decent QB. It's amazing some of the things he did with shit for QBs. You can't judge him off stats. But he can block and catch and is very athletic.
Quote:CAREER -- Ranks first in touchdowns by a tight end in Auburn history with 14 ... Holds AU single-season record for touchdowns by a tight end with seven (2011) ... Three career game-winning touchdowns (South Carolina - 2010/11, Alabama -2010)
2011 -- AP Second Team ALl-SEC ... Coaches All-SEC Second Team ... Sports Illustrated Honorable Mention All-American ... SEC Coaches Pre-Season Third Team ... Phil Steele All-SEC Second Team ... Mackey Award Watch List ... Sports Illustrated Preseason All-SEC Team ... Phil Steele Preseason All-SEC Third Team ..Tied for third nationally with seven touchdown catches by a tight end ...
2010 -- SEC Academic Honor Roll ...
HIGH SCHOOL -- High School Coach: Chip Lindsey ... As a senior, caught 72 passes for 1,000 yards and seven touchdowns ... As a junior, 46 receptions for 496 yards and seven scores while adding 48 tackles, an interception and a blocked punt on defense ... Class 5A All-State as a senior by the Atlanta Journal-Constitution and the Georgia Sports Writers Association ... Atlanta Journal-Constitution Super Southern 100 ... No. 74 on Mobile Press-Register's Super Southeast 120 ... 172nd on the Rivals.com Rivals250 ... Ranked third nationally among tight ends and 11th on the Georgia Postseason Top 75 by Rivals.com ... Ranked as the tight end with the nation's best hands by Rivals.com ... Listed as No. 6 tight end by ESPN.com/Scouts, Inc. ... Nation's No. 8 tight end by Scout.com ... Listed as the country's No. 11 TE and the No. 11 player from Georgia by SuperPrep ... PrepStar All-American.
Dude can play. We should be able to snag him in the 3rd or 4th round. He would explode with a QB like Ryan throwing him the ball. This video isn't the best quality but look at this catch.
And he can block too. Look at this.
RE: TG....ONE MORE YEAR ONE MORE YEAR - FullMetalFalcon23 - 12-01-2012 08:02 PM
I agree the guy can block but I prefer Fauria's skill set out of all of them. Even though Eifert is ranked hire. Remember they were both at Notre Dame. Lutz comes across a bit clumsy to me he is easy to get off balance/ off his feet a lot when blocking. We need someone who can run routes up the seam from anywhere and build a receiving repertoire across the field. That instantly provides an element we don't really have in Tony at any kind of sudden pace. I could live with Lutz if the staff chose him but would much rather Fauria. That's a pro ready tight end.
RE: TG....ONE MORE YEAR ONE MORE YEAR - AUTiger7222 - 12-01-2012 11:29 PM
(12-01-2012 08:02 PM)FullMetalFalcon23 Wrote: I agree the guy can block but I prefer Fauria's skill set out of all of them. Even though Eifert is ranked hire. Remember they were both at Notre Dame. Lutz comes across a bit clumsy to me he is easy to get off balance/ off his feet a lot when blocking. We need someone who can run routes up the seam from anywhere and build a receiving repertoire across the field. That instantly provides an element we don't really have in Tony at any kind of sudden pace. I could live with Lutz if the staff chose him but would much rather Fauria. That's a pro ready tight end.
I think getting Lutz in the 3rd or 4th round would be a better value than spending a 1st or 2nd round pick on a TE.
RE: TG....ONE MORE YEAR ONE MORE YEAR - AsylumGuido - 12-01-2012 11:45 PM
(12-01-2012 11:29 PM)AUTiger7222 Wrote: I think getting Lutz in the 3rd or 4th round would be a better value than spending a 1st or 2nd round pick on a TE.
I agree. You are not going to come close to replacing Gonzo and using a very high pick would be a waste. Players like Gonzo are once in a decade or more at there position. Chances are the dozen or so TE's drafted this coming year are going to be as average on the whole as those drafted any other year ... regardless of round.
RE: TG....ONE MORE YEAR ONE MORE YEAR - hitwriter - 12-02-2012 02:37 AM
(12-01-2012 04:38 PM)AsylumGuido Wrote: No, I explained that earlier. I have watched almost every snap of your games this season and Gonzo more than any other player made critical plays in tight games. You did without Julio. You have had Roddy shut down or limited, but Gonzo ALWAYS comes through. I honestly believe that he meant at least three wins over your next bset option at TE. I don't feel that any other individual player outside of Ryan that near had that much individual impact.
We have three receivers who may each have 1000 yard seasons... check the stats..
Tony Gonzalez 69 712 10.3 25 6
Roddy White 67 1,003 15.0 59 4
Julio Jones 53 883 16.7 80 6
I realize your need to place importance on one player being a Saints fan and you're right there... maybe Chase Daniel should fill in for the Brees and cut down on the INT lead... you might have a couple of more wins?
Our team survived a 5 INT game... Brees and company did not. Key word is TEAM
RE: TG....ONE MORE YEAR ONE MORE YEAR - Xanthri - 12-02-2012 03:43 AM
(11-30-2012 11:56 PM)AsylumGuido Wrote: I did respond to this is Greg's multi post, but I honestly believe that Gonzo adds a dimension that will be a serious loss when he leaves. The guy is always there to make the play when needed. He never drops the ball. He can handle double coverage. He can block. I am hard pressed to name another player that is as important as Gonzo to your team right now. Sure, the obvious answer would be Ryan. Yes, his loss would be crippling, but I guess I am talking the most valuable complimentary player.
If you took Gonzo off your squad at the beginning of this season you very easily could have lost three or four more games. You wouldn't miss any other player to that extent as long as Gonzo was still there.
Be honest.
One point....never drops a ball? he dropped one in the Saints game (the first one....that may have ultimately been the extra play we needed...) Not slamming him...it wasn't an easy catch and he had already more than done his part in that game....I just love the guy...he is so rock solid...I questioned the 2nd round pick we gave for him at first....which is why TD and not me is the GM...lol.....
Gonzo is not irreplacable but he always seems to give the team that extra boost....we shall see what he decides...I myself am torn....if/when the Falcons win the Superbowl I could easily see him hanging up the cleats....if we get to the championship game but don't make it....who knows...I will still go for the ring....but you know what I mean....
RE: TG....ONE MORE YEAR ONE MORE YEAR - FullMetalFalcon23 - 12-02-2012 03:49 AM
(12-01-2012 11:45 PM)AsylumGuido Wrote: I agree. You are not going to come close to replacing Gonzo and using a very high pick would be a waste. Players like Gonzo are once in a decade or more at there position. Chances are the dozen or so TE's drafted this coming year are going to be as average on the whole as those drafted any other year ... regardless of round.
Someone likely said the same thing about Gonzo once, that he wasn't worth the pick. That's what the scouting is for. I think whoever gets Eifert or Fauria us drafting one of the best Tight Ends to come out since Gonzo and Gates.
I'm watching video if Fauria and I see them placing a 250+ 6ft 6 guy out on the flank to run routes. I'm seeing triple coverage and he is still rising up over the coverage. That's a guy who I see as a problem much like Graham is to other NFC teams. Too big for corners and safeties, too athletic and agile for linebackers. The type of player you have to limit but can't stop.