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Perhaps our offensive SCHEME is the problem. - ChrisD - 10-14-2012 06:22 PM
I was alerted of this last week when it was stated that Dirk Koetter decided when he came into Atlanta that he wanted to keep our offensive scheme and just change up the playcalling. Perhaps this is the main problem with our offense - still. The plays seem to be too manilla sometimes, and I think that's what the Raiders keyed on and figured out ways to stop them. We made adjustments and looked a little better in the 2nd half, but I saw nothing that I wanted to see continued.
All three interceptions were completely on Matt. Especially the one he got nailed on. Any other quarterback in the league holds on to that ball. I'm not sure why he threw it, terrible. Our offensive line needs serious help, it's almost to the point where I think we need to bring a FA in.
RE: Perhaps our offensive SCHEME is the problem. - AUTiger7222 - 10-14-2012 06:29 PM
(10-14-2012 06:22 PM)ChrisD Wrote: I was alerted of this last week when it was stated that Dirk Koetter decided when he came into Atlanta that he wanted to keep our offensive scheme and just change up the playcalling. Perhaps this is the main problem with our offense - still. The plays seem to be too manilla sometimes, and I think that's what the Raiders keyed on and figured out ways to stop them. We made adjustments and looked a little better in the 2nd half, but I saw nothing that I wanted to see continued.
All three interceptions were completely on Matt. Especially the one he got nailed on. Any other quarterback in the league holds on to that ball. I'm not sure why he threw it, terrible. Our offensive line needs serious help, it's almost to the point where I think we need to bring a FA in.
The reason he threw that 3rd interception was because he had Tony open and was trying to get it to him. Many QBs have thrown interceptions like that. It happens. The first interception HD deserves a lot of blame.
RE: Perhaps our offensive SCHEME is the problem. - AsylumGuido - 10-14-2012 06:41 PM
Hell. You don't have a problem. You are 6-0. No team will ever be totally dominant. You have to be satisfied, if not overjoyed, at the fact that you are where you are now . Schemes don't mean crap. Execution means crap. To this point y'all have been able to execute when you needed it. Don't get any deeper than that.
I sincerely believe that your team is positioned to make a run as much as I hate it, but if there is any chance I believe fans have to buy in all the way and not be chicken shit. Give it your all. Don't leave anything behind.
Personally, I, of course, hope your team bites the big one and chokes, but I really think y'all should be a bit more positive.
I am sorry and hate to support the Falcons, but some of you need to grow some balls.
RE: Perhaps our offensive SCHEME is the problem. - takeitdown - 10-14-2012 06:46 PM
Yeah, the OL has been my concern all along and seems like will be the achilles Heel. Ryan has shown that with normal time, he'll do great with these weapons, but we've seen how teams that can get pressure with 4 beat passing teams consistently.
Our OL is average in pass protection and poor in run blocking. With getting guards in the 2nd, 3rd, 4th rounds over the last few years, you'd think we'd have a really solid interior OL. I firmly believe with a solid OL, this offense can compete with anyone (the D needs some line work as well), but without the OL, the rest is moot. If the OL isn't going to hold, Julio's really going to have to learn to "win at the ball" because Ryan's going to have to put the ball up in the air before the receivers can get open
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Perhaps our offensive SCHEME is the problem. - juraitwaluzka - 10-14-2012 06:50 PM
Hate to say it but I have to agree with Guido. Another thing to consider. It is well known that teams scout back about 4 games on film. We are starting to see other teams adjust to what we have been doing. Now we have to adjust to their adjustments.
This deal is far from static, things can change dramatically week to week. One of the trademarks of this team I think is their ability to compartmentalize. We will be fine. The NFL is tough and there probably aren't going to be many easy ones.
The fact the we won this game despite at least 5 or 6 stupid things we did to lose it speaks volumes about how good we are.
We are 6-0 and that's all that matters. How only matters if you want to worry for the next two weeks. I say fuck that. I'm looking forward to shoving a few Vick fumbles right up his ass on the way to the end zone. Then he can continue talking about how he hasn't had a fumbling problem.
RE: Perhaps our offensive SCHEME is the problem. - AsylumGuido - 10-14-2012 07:03 PM
(10-14-2012 06:50 PM)juraitwaluzka Wrote: Hate to say it but I have to agree with Guido. Another thing to consider. It is well known that teams scout back about 4 games on film. We are starting to see other teams adjust to what we have been doing. meow we have to adjust to their adjustments.
This deal is far from static, things can change dramatically week to week. One of the trademarks of this team I think is their ability to compartmentalize. We will be fine. The NFL is tough and there probably aren't going to be many easy ones.
The fact the we won this game despite at least 5 or 6 stupid things we did to lose it speaks volumes about how good we are.
We are 6-0 and that's all that matters. How only matters if you want to worry for the next two weeks. I say fuck that. I'm looking forward to shoving a few Vick fumbles right up his ass on the way to the end zone. Then he can continue talking about how he hasn't had a fumbling problem.
Believe me, I threw up in my mouth a little when I said it, but I can't stand bitchin' when it is going good.
RE: Perhaps our offensive SCHEME is the problem. - phocis850 - 10-14-2012 08:07 PM
Werd Guido.
We have issues, all teams do. But you don't change things when you are 6 and 0, you make minor adjustments.
Clearly if we fix our run offense and run defense then we would really be grasping for things to complain about.
RE: Perhaps our offensive SCHEME is the problem. - AUTiger7222 - 10-14-2012 10:15 PM
(10-14-2012 06:46 PM)takeitdown Wrote: Yeah, the OL has been my concern all along and seems like will be the achilles Heel. Ryan has shown that with normal time, he'll do great with these weapons, but we've seen how teams that can get pressure with 4 beat passing teams consistently.
Our OL is average in pass protection and poor in run blocking. With getting guards in the 2nd, 3rd, 4th rounds over the last few years, you'd think we'd have a really solid interior OL. I firmly believe with a solid OL, this offense can compete with anyone (the D needs some line work as well), but without the OL, the rest is moot. If the OL isn't going to hold, Julio's really going to have to learn to "win at the ball" because Ryan's going to have to put the ball up in the air before the receivers can get open
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I agree. OL was solid first 3 games but the last 3 games it was clearly been a problem and has affected our offensive production. I don't think the play calling has been the problem.
RE: Perhaps our offensive SCHEME is the problem. - Capitan - 10-14-2012 10:18 PM
(10-14-2012 06:29 PM)AUTiger7222 Wrote: The reason he threw that 3rd interception was because he had Tony open and was trying to get it to him. Many QBs have thrown interceptions like that. It happens. The first interception HD deserves a lot of blame.
Why do you think HD was at fault...just want to here it reason I missed the play
RE: Perhaps our offensive SCHEME is the problem. - AUTiger7222 - 10-14-2012 10:24 PM
(10-14-2012 10:18 PM)Capitan Wrote: Why do you think HD was at fault...just want to here it reason I missed the play
It looked like HD was suppose to run a drag route across the middle of the field but he didn't cut his route sharp enough straight across and it made it easy for the defender to jump the route and get the interception.
HD ran a route where he kept giving ground and running away from Ryan, instead of cutting straight across and using his body to shield off the defender, like Tony Gonzalez does, which allowed the defender to jump the route.