(12-05-2012 06:53 PM)ATLBound Wrote:  What were Vicks rushing numbers that year? Let me also say Tebow would NEVER have a year like Vick's 2010 year. As much of a one year wonder it was, it was still better than Tebow's one year wonder.

He doesn't even practice well. What player you know gets a chance when they can't practice well?

(12-05-2012 07:11 PM)AUTiger7222 Wrote:  Tebow - 122 CAR, 660 YDS (5.4), 6 TD
Vick - 102 CAR, 597 YDS (5.9), 6 TD

Again. Not that much different. I get the feeling you can't stand the fact that Tebow's year last year was as good as Vick's year from 2005. Sure. Tebow will never have a year like Vick had in 2010. But Vick proved just how much of a fluke that was.

Lot's of players don't practice well and then play well on Sunday. Then there are players who look like HOF'ers in practice and then disappear on Sunday. Seriously? That's one of your reasons for why Tebow doesn't deserve a chance?

(12-05-2012 08:46 PM)ATLBound Wrote:  Actually I like Tebow. I don't have anything against him. I just think he is a horrible QB. I mean absolutely horrible.

There were a few things about Vick. He had a cannon for an arm and his running ability was something nobody had ever witnessed before at the QB position.

Tebow's throwing motion, just his mechanics, leave something to be desired.

Lets not act like Tebow won those games by himself. He was largely high school QB-ish during the first 3 quarters of every single game he played. He had the absolute worst completion percentage by a large margin. That defense, Mcgahee, AND Tebow won those games. His will definitely lit a fire under that team but that doesn't mean plug him at QB.

And are you comparing Vick's worst year to Tebow's best year?

Don't take this as me being a believer in Vick as well, but if those were my only two choices, I'm taking Vick.

My question still hasn't been answered. The ultimate goal of every team is to win the Super Bowl. Do you truly believe with the Tebow you have now that you could win a Super Bowl? MAYBE with the 85 Bears...

(12-05-2012 09:10 PM)AUTiger7222 Wrote:  I never said Tebow can win a Super Bowl because I don't think he can. But he's a hell of a lot better than Mark Sanchez ever thought about being. That's the whole point of this thread.

(12-05-2012 11:17 PM)Drathdon Wrote:  1,654 more posts needed to catch up!

Man, that thread is an amazing monster! Wonder how long it would take to read straight through?

(12-05-2012 10:40 PM)Drathdon Wrote:  Tebow was essentially a rookie last year. Most players do get better after their first year of being exposed to the NFL speed, so pretending his bad completions last year doom him forever when he did have splashes of great play (Steelers) seems to be an unlikely argument to put any weight in. Other rookies aren't held to your standards.

If he can't play, judge him by what he does now, a year later... not the first games of his career. The Jets are bad right now, so giving him a chance to see if any improvement is there only makes sense.

(12-05-2012 11:38 PM)ATLBound Wrote:  I'm not pretending...lol. I would take him at H Back, but its not specifically about his completion percentage. Tebow was working on his throwing mechanics his whole rookie season and all the way into games beyond him getting his starting role.

He has yet to get that fixed....I'm not holding other rookies to different standards, which is some random assumption you put out there btw. If you can't get your throwing mechanics situated, then I don't see the point of you being a QB. I don't see Tebow being the trendsetter for QB's with bad mechanics having consistently successful careers as a QB. Thats where practice comes into play.

Also what happens when NFL defenses actually fully figure Tebow out. The rookie year helps Tebow out more than it hurts him. He sucked against the 31st or 32nd ranked defense (Patriots) twice.