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RE: WhoDats on Saintsreport going ape shit - AsylumGuido - 06-13-2012 06:39 PM
(06-13-2012 05:32 PM)ATLBound Wrote: So it is of no significance to you that he failed to produce a winning record against bottom dwellers in the league without Payton standing beside him?
That doesn't mean anything at all? If you don't think Payton wasn't involved in calling plays at all during that timeframe, then you are being EXTREMELY naive and only for the benefit of trying to win a forum debate. Reality will settle in during the bye week and beyond.
It's sad because there are plenty on this forum who can admit that most likely Brees will sign, and the Saints are a formidable opponent, and Brees is a great QB. We have fans who are not so delusional to recognize things that sre against us but still great. But for you it's difficult to get a common and real answer out of you about the absence of Payton. At one point Payton's absence will not affect the offense and then at another point Payton's absence will cost you 2 games (14 to 12). And at one point Spags will run the whole defense. So if Spags runs the whole defense with no input from Payton and your offense won't be affected by Payton's absence...them why will Payton's absence reduce your game win total from 14 to 12.
Oh wait I forgot...Payton is soooo important to the Special Teams play. Duh...what the fuck was I thinking?
Yes, reality will set in bye week and beyond. The Saints should be 4-1 at that point with two weeks to prepare for a overrated Tampa team. After that game Vitt will be back and the Saints should continue to roll.
Oh, and I said I felt the Saints could win AT LEAST 12 under the current circumstances. With all of Payton's preparation for this season it could be more. Maybe even 14. But, if were not available the following season I would be a different story.
RE: WhoDats on Saintsreport going ape shit - Drathdon - 06-13-2012 07:08 PM
(06-13-2012 05:09 PM)AsylumGuido Wrote: There is more talent on this year's roster than last year's which went 13-3
There was more talent on the Falcons the year after we went 13-3, but that does not mean you automatically get a better record. Shit happens. For the Aints, whole lots of shit has happened.
Quote:Carmichael still called 100% of the offensive plays over the final nine games of last season while the Saints went 8-1. The guy knows what he is doing. That's why he will probably have his own team next season.
Then why don't you just end all this speculation and distraction, let Payton go, and hire Carmichael as the head coach for the Aints this year? I mean, it's OBVIOUS that Payton adds nothing to the team any more that Carmichael and Vitt can't handle, and they are just as good with Carmichael. You would save a ton on the cost of a head coach, get normalcy back, and not miss a beat (according to you)!
Until I see you suggesting this, I know you are just blowing hopeful smoke in the air, are in denial, and do not even believe yourself the snake oil you are selling.
RE: WhoDats on Saintsreport going ape shit - Drathdon - 06-13-2012 07:13 PM
(06-13-2012 06:39 PM)AsylumGuido Wrote: With all of Payton's preparation for this season it could be more. Maybe even 14.
Payton is so good he can prepare against teams before their rosters are even set (even before the Draft)! This guy is amazing AND a psychic!
So why didn't he use those psychic powers to keep from getting caught in all their lies?
RE: WhoDats on Saintsreport going ape shit - FireDawg85 - 06-13-2012 07:30 PM
(06-13-2012 07:13 PM)Drathdon Wrote: Payton is so good he can prepare against teams before their rosters are even set (even before the Draft)! This guy is amazing AND a psychic!
So why didn't he use those psychic powers to keep from getting caught in all their lies?
Peyton the Oracle
RE: WhoDats on Saintsreport going ape shit - ATLBound - 06-13-2012 08:45 PM
(06-13-2012 07:13 PM)Drathdon Wrote: Payton is so good he can prepare against teams before their rosters are even set (even before the Draft)! This guy is amazing AND a psychic!I already this up to him sometime last month. Somehow he seems to think it doesn't apply.
So why didn't he use those psychic powers to keep from getting caught in all their lies?
You know injuries, adjustments, trades, draft, etc. Those are figments of our imagination. You know Payton knew that Ochocinco was going to the Dolphins right?
RE: WhoDats on Saintsreport going ape shit - phocis850 - 06-14-2012 02:10 AM
Closing this thread. Turned into bountygate-esque discussion.