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RE: Saints Bounty Thread - Dale4Saul2Red0 - 06-02-2012 06:48 PM
Some of you guys must enjoy talking to brick walls in your spare time or something
RE: Saints Bounty Thread - Radical - 06-02-2012 07:21 PM
(06-02-2012 06:32 PM)pauliwood Wrote: Gotcha
TOS violation reported
TOS "violation" read and ignored. Cut the silly shit.
RE: Saints Bounty Thread - AsylumGuido - 06-02-2012 07:24 PM
(06-02-2012 06:47 PM)Beef Wrote: Right, because "cart-off" has soooooo many interpretations. Or wait..... No, it does not.
It's THE SAINT'S LEDGER and it has the word "CART-OFF" in it. And a VALUE associated with those cart-offs.
Whether injuries actually happened or not doesn't fucking matter.
The only "holes" present here are yours. You can't deny that the ledger is from the Saints and "cart-offs" has only ONE damn meaning. It 10000000% PROVES a pay for injury bounty system existed.
Stop being such a crazy fuck.
No. Goodell claimed that the Saints had a Bounty program that targeted players for injury and that the Saints players "enthusiastically" took part in that program.
The "ledger", which is supposedly hand written, does not seem to correspond to any Saints game of that period. Even if it was valid all it proves is that some assistant coach under Gregg Williams was keeping some type of record which corresponds to nothing that occurred on the field.
By the way, Beef, values associated with the cart offs and whacks have been public knowledge for months. Catch up. They are over the top descriptions of legal hits.
Oh, and why must you keep spouting that "F" word?
RE: Saints Bounty Thread - AsylumGuido - 06-02-2012 07:26 PM
(06-02-2012 07:21 PM)Radical Wrote: TOS "violation" read and ignored. Cut the silly shit.
Threw me for a loop also, Radical. Is "underwear" not allowed while that other word is?
RE: Saints Bounty Thread - ATLBound - 06-02-2012 08:09 PM
(06-02-2012 07:24 PM)AsylumGuido Wrote: No. Goodell claimed that the Saints had a Bounty program that targeted players for injury and that the Saints players "enthusiastically" took part in that program.
The "ledger", which is supposedly hand written, does not seem to correspond to any Saints game of that period. Even if it was valid all it proves is that some assistant coach under Gregg Williams was keeping some type of record which corresponds to nothing that occurred on the field.
By the way, Beef, values associated with the cart offs and whacks have been public knowledge for months. Catch up. They are over the top descriptions of legal hits.
Oh, and why must you keep spouting that "F" word?
A cart-off is a cart-off Guido. If a player gets paid for causing someone to leave the field or get carted off then that's the bounty proven.
Here's another scenario:
If a player was OFFERED money for a cart-off but the cart-off never actually happens or the injury never actually happens, then that is still a bounty program.
I really think that this is the part that you are missing. That ledger proves a bounty program existed regardless if there were any payouts.
RE: Saints Bounty Thread - Beef - 06-02-2012 09:31 PM
(06-02-2012 07:24 PM)AsylumGuido Wrote: No. Goodell claimed that the Saints had a Bounty program that targeted players for injury and that the Saints players "enthusiastically" took part in that program.
The "ledger", which is supposedly hand written, does not seem to correspond to any Saints game of that period. Even if it was valid all it proves is that some assistant coach under Gregg Williams was keeping some type of record which corresponds to nothing that occurred on the field.
By the way, Beef, values associated with the cart offs and whacks have been public knowledge for months. Catch up. They are over the top descriptions of legal hits.
Oh, and why must you keep spouting that "F" word?
LOL, so that's your spin? You're now down to simply "Goodell said the players enthusiastically participated" and since you don't feel there's been any proof of this, that's now your entire argument. That's all you've got left. Pathetic.
You've argued that a pay for injury bounty program didn't exist at all. Well a Saints ledger with the words "cart-offs" in it and a reward for getting them proves a pay for injury program did in fact exist. You can not dispute that no matter how hard you try, you're bullshitting nobody by trying to spin it some other way.
And I say "fuck" simply because I can and I like it. Especially when I'm really trying to emphasize how fucking batshit crazy you are. This is an adult-level site. Get over it and quit being a fucking baby.
RE: Saints Bounty Thread - Templar - 06-02-2012 10:13 PM
My second and third favorite expressions are God Damn and Fuck.
Recently I was asked what my first favorite was.
God damn mother fucker.
I swear to put an exclamation point on something. I swear as a way of saying that I don't really care if my words or my beliefs offend, or piss someone else off. I swear as a way of saying "if you feel my language unsavory, perhaps you should talk to someone else.".
Contrary to the statements some make saying that swearing is a sign of ignorance, I'm currently working on two master's degrees with a 3.9 GPA. Another sign that I'm not ignorant is that I hate the fucking aints. Of course the greatest indication of ignorance in North America is to deny that the aints ran a bounty program.
Which brings us back to the topic at hand.
RE: Saints Bounty Thread - phocis850 - 06-02-2012 10:16 PM
One anonymous ledger comes out and Guido thinks this was the solid evidence Goodell had. Lol.
RE: Saints Bounty Thread - TeamPlayer1 - 06-02-2012 11:35 PM
Gentlemen, I am telling you that if necessary Goodell will give G. Williams leniency to turn "states evidence" and give up everything about the aints bounty program and name names. Everyone knows that the aints had it going on, Brees included. You heard it here!
RE: Saints Bounty Thread - Drathdon - 06-03-2012 02:39 AM
"This ledger says 'cart offs' with a payment beside it, proof you had a bounty pool."
"No it doesn't."