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RE: Saints Bounty Thread - Radical - 05-21-2012 10:51 AM
(05-21-2012 10:33 AM)AsylumGuido Wrote: If he knew he was guilty it would be stupid to bring suit.
That seems a bit naive.
RE: Saints Bounty Thread - Dale4Saul2Red0 - 05-21-2012 01:19 PM
According to SI's Peter King, the Saints "feel they should be credited for taking a medical risk" on unsigned franchise player Drew Brees in 2006.With the sides mired in contract stalemate, the Saints apparently believe they deserve a break for being the only team willing to give Brees $10 million per season as he was coming off shoulder surgery in 2006. That line of thinking is unlikely to move a player who hasn't missed a game with injury in six seasons in New Orleans.
Just because it's fun poking fun @ the Saints any chance I get. Going to be hilarious when Brees/Payton are gone from New Orleans. The organization is a joke, clueless on running a franchise. Hell if the Dolphins weren't just as silly Brees should have been a Dolphin. Looking 4-12 seasons dead in the face once again once this 'era' is over. Might want to dust those grocery bags off Saints fans because your organization will return you to your rightful place in the cellar of the NFL soon enough.
RE: Saints Bounty Thread - TeamPlayer1 - 05-21-2012 01:59 PM
What if former DC Williams becomes the ultimate "snitch" and names every player who agreed with the bounty program and agrees to testify under oath? Maybe Goodell would show some leniency toward Williams since telling the truth is a good thing, right?
Of course Vilma's ban would be doubled and other players could face suspensions due to Williams testimony as well.
RE: Saints Bounty Thread - Falconidae - 05-21-2012 02:03 PM
(05-21-2012 10:33 AM)AsylumGuido Wrote: No. I believe he knows he didn't do what he was accused of doing so someone out there is either lying or has presented some sort of faulty evidence. If he knew he was guilty it would be stupid to bring suit. There is no way a smart lawyer would let him do that and his lawyer is one of the best there is.
Right, but the smart lawyers at the NFL would let Goodell levy the harshest penalties ever in the NFL without enough proof to back them up in court.
RE: Saints Bounty Thread - ATLBound - 05-21-2012 02:09 PM
(05-21-2012 10:51 AM)Radical Wrote: That seems a bit naive.
Extremely naive..all you have to do is look to the MLB to refute this.
RE: Saints Bounty Thread - AsylumGuido - 05-21-2012 02:25 PM
(05-21-2012 02:03 PM)Falconidae Wrote: Right, but the smart lawyers at the NFL would let Goodell levy the harshest penalties ever in the NFL without enough proof to back them up in court.
You would think, right? But, punishment in the NFL is a one man process. Goodell holds absolute individual power in that realm.
RE: Saints Bounty Thread - AsylumGuido - 05-21-2012 02:27 PM
(05-21-2012 01:19 PM)Dale4Saul2Red0 Wrote: According to SI's Peter King, the Saints "feel they should be credited for taking a medical risk" on unsigned franchise player Drew Brees in 2006.With the sides mired in contract stalemate, the Saints apparently believe they deserve a break for being the only team willing to give Brees $10 million per season as he was coming off shoulder surgery in 2006. That line of thinking is unlikely to move a player who hasn't missed a game with injury in six seasons in New Orleans.
Just because it's fun poking fun @ the Saints any chance I get. Going to be hilarious when Brees/Payton are gone from New Orleans. The organization is a joke, clueless on running a franchise. Hell if the Dolphins weren't just as silly Brees should have been a Dolphin. Looking 4-12 seasons dead in the face once again once this 'era' is over. Might want to dust those grocery bags off Saints fans because your organization will return you to your rightful place in the cellar of the NFL soon enough.
Actually, the Saints are recognized as one of the best run organizations these days. Payton has six more years and Brees will have the same. In the meantime they will continue building under Loomis. They will be successful for years to come.
RE: Saints Bounty Thread - AsylumGuido - 05-21-2012 02:33 PM
(05-21-2012 01:59 PM)TeamPlayer1 Wrote: What if former DC Williams becomes the ultimate "snitch" and names every player who agreed with the bounty program and agrees to testify under oath? Maybe Goodell would show some leniency toward Williams since telling the truth is a good thing, right?
Of course Vilma's ban would be doubled and other players could face suspensions due to Williams testimony as well.
That would be difficult to do IF there was no ongoing bounty program, right? Not a single Saints front office person, coach or player has admitted to or verified the existence of a bounty program. Gregg Williams apologized for running a pay-for-performance program. Loomis and Payton apologized for a pay-for-performance program being run under their watch.
Y'all keep wishing.
RE: Saints Bounty Thread - AsylumGuido - 05-21-2012 02:36 PM
(05-21-2012 10:51 AM)Radical Wrote: That seems a bit naive.
No, not naive at all. Vilma has absolutely nothing to gain by bringing suit IF he is truly guilty of all that he has denied, but even more to lose. Right now there is enough doubt as to his guilt that his post-playing career may not be too terribly crippled, but IF he were guilty it could destroy all doubt. That would be stupid.
RE: Saints Bounty Thread - Falconidae - 05-21-2012 02:48 PM
(05-21-2012 02:25 PM)AsylumGuido Wrote: You would think, right? But, punishment in the NFL is a one man process. Goodell holds absolute individual power in that realm.
No it's not a one man process, yes, Goodell is ultimately responsible, but he relies on his attorneys and independent contractors to help him decide.
There's just no way the lawyers of the NFL are going to let Goodell go rogue.