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RE: Saints Bounty Thread - AsylumGuido - 10-20-2012 02:11 PM
(10-19-2012 10:33 PM)Dale4Saul2Red0 Wrote: Lets just end it now
Why didn't the coaches fight their suspensions? If nothing wrong was done then why didn't they fight the way Vilma is? WHY? No tip toeing just a flat, straight, direct answer will suffice. I guess innocent people don't fight for justice all the time. Spin away Rumplestillskin.
The coaches ALL denied any existence of bounties. They all did fight it but without a union they did not have the opportunities afforded the players. All they could do was appeal and that was a joke. They were all suspended with reinstatement hanging over their heads. Although Goodell denies it, the coaches were all told they were not to discuss the matter at all if they wanted reinstated.
There is no spin required. Anybody and everybody with any knowledge of the situation knows that the coaches and Mickey Loomis have no leverage at all and have all of their hopes riding on the players and their lawyers blowing this thing wide open. Give me a few minutes, if required, and I can give you a list of sports law reporters from several news sources who have all made this point ad nauseam.
RE: Saints Bounty Thread - AsylumGuido - 10-20-2012 02:12 PM
(10-19-2012 10:43 PM)Beef Wrote: What a bullshit response. This is the kind of shit we get from you when you don't have a good argument.
Go fuck yourself.
Somebody finally ban this asshole.
Just speaking the truth, brother, just speaking the truth.
RE: Saints Bounty Thread - AsylumGuido - 10-20-2012 02:18 PM
(10-20-2012 02:09 PM)Dale4Saul2Red0 Wrote: Guido ignores my question obviously
Nope. I hope I answer every question you have. That answer was a no-brainer and has been drilled into the head of anyone that has closely followed the whole ordeal.
Oh, and by the way, Joe Vitt has been very vocal and appeared in court and testified in the restraining order case that there was never any bounty program and no Saints player ever intentionally tried to injure any other player for money or not. Considering he has still yet to be reinstated that took some pretty big balls. But, for some reason I think Goodell was afraid of him.
RE: Saints Bounty Thread - Aftermath - 10-20-2012 02:18 PM
This is either the largest conspiracy professional sports has ever seen and Roger Goodell is a lying sociopath of epic proportions or the Saints are guilty, I haven't decided which yet.
RE: Saints Bounty Thread - AsylumGuido - 10-20-2012 02:22 PM
(10-20-2012 02:18 PM)Aftermath Wrote: This is either the largest conspiracy professional sports has ever seen and Roger Goodell is a lying sociopath of epic proportions or the Saints are guilty, I haven't decided which yet.
No. Goodell made the huge error of believing everything a certified liar (Mike Cerullo) told him and ran with it without covering his bases and now it is coming back to bite him in the ass. I honestly believe Goodell thought he was doing right at first, but the guy is not a lawyer and went off half-cocked wielding his declaration of ultimate power. I have no doubt people warned him along the way, such as the lead investigator, Hummel, who mysteriously resigned the same day the punishments came down.
RE: Saints Bounty Thread - Dale4Saul2Red0 - 10-20-2012 02:37 PM
(10-20-2012 02:11 PM)AsylumGuido Wrote: The coaches ALL denied any existence of bounties. They all did fight it but without a union they did not have the opportunities afforded the players. All they could do was appeal and that was a joke. They were all suspended with reinstatement hanging over their heads. Although Goodell denies it, the coaches were all told they were not to discuss the matter at all if they wanted reinstated.
There is no spin required. Anybody and everybody with any knowledge of the situation knows that the coaches and Mickey Loomis have no leverage at all and have all of their hopes riding on the players and their lawyers blowing this thing wide open. Give me a few minutes, if required, and I can give you a list of sports law reporters from several news sources who have all made this point ad nauseam.
WRONG! Damn I'm done with this guy he just makes shit up. Can we make a loophole to ban him? Then he can go cry about it to the NFLPA. There's a reason so many people who are behind bars continue to say they are innocent.
RE: Saints Bounty Thread - FullMetalFalcon23 - 10-20-2012 02:41 PM
Man you're an embarrassment even by Louisiana genepool standards. Fucking hell. I try not to bag on you but you mus me pisstoradically drunk to think the Saints did absolutely nothing wrong. You're rIght and everyone else is wrong. Go jump off your bridge you troll.
These idiots are fighting to save their own skin. Not to right what is some perceived wrong. You have honed in on and focused on Goodell as the symbol of hate for this. But do you realise that he has seen a limited portion of the evidence. And that NFL security were the ones who lead the investigation and then raised it to his attention. He isn't like you, for all his flaws he doesn't sit there with a tin foil hat on his head and pluck shit on out of the air and say its pure fact. What do you think happened. Goodell woke up one morning and said I know what. I'll risk my career and my cushty job to fuck with the Saints for kicks.
Get over yourself, fucking conceived in a clusterfuck bullshit. Ignorant shit like this makes my fucking blood.
I've talked about this with logical rational saints fans. Who even if skeptical on the scope of the situation have the sense not to come out with this Roswell file level bullshit. I've read so much Guido bullshit. I need to go crash a car into a wall sans seatbelt and see if I can lose some of the memory of this shit. FUCK
RE: Saints Bounty Thread - ATLBound - 10-20-2012 02:41 PM
(10-20-2012 02:01 PM)AsylumGuido Wrote: You can't stop something you did have going on. There was no bounty program to stop.
And there was only one "snitch" and he is a documented liar, Mike Cerullo. He is the only person that has reported he had any knowledge of any bounty and he has yet to be cross-examined to explain why he isn't lying this time and why his story doesn't match Greeg Williams' version at all.
"His story doesn't match Gregg Williams' version AT ALL"
More stretching of the truth eh?
RE: Saints Bounty Thread - ATLBound - 10-20-2012 02:46 PM
(10-20-2012 02:11 PM)AsylumGuido Wrote: Although Goodell denies it, the coaches were all told they were not to discuss the matter at all if they wanted reinstated.These 2 statements contradict each other. You have no proof, no source, nothing, nada, zilch to support this except for blind faith and hope.
There is no spin required.
RE: Saints Bounty Thread - AsylumGuido - 10-20-2012 02:47 PM
(10-20-2012 02:37 PM)Dale4Saul2Red0 Wrote: WRONG! Damn I'm done with this guy he just makes shit up. Can we make a loophole to ban him? Then he can go cry about it to the NFLPA. There's a reason so many people who are behind bars continue to say they are innocent.
No. None of it is wrong. There is nothing that any of the coaches or Loomis can do legally. The players all have the NFLPA and the CBA implications they can use and Vilma has potentially slanderous and accusation that can be defined as defamation in play. The coaches have none of this. They have no avenue to take but to sit back and wait. That has been articulately explained many times over in the past few months.
You said this could be over once and for all if I gave you a straight answer to your question. I give you that easy answer and you still have a problem. I'm sorry, but that's the way it is.