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RE: Vilma Suspended 1 year - JDaveG - 05-02-2012 08:25 PM
(05-02-2012 05:36 PM)AsylumGuido Wrote: As flimsy as the published evidence was against the four players that did receive punishment.......
One of these things is not like the others,
One of these things just doesn't belong,
Can you tell which thing is not like the others
By the time I finish my song?
RE: Vilma Suspended 1 year - AsylumGuido - 05-02-2012 08:28 PM
(05-02-2012 08:17 PM)juraitwaluzka Wrote: My mental imagery of Guido during this whole thing:
Green isn't my color. But, while I always do wear head gear every day, it is always one of my Saints' caps. And, no, the Saints only need to be stronger than the other teams this year in the NFC South. Which they will be.
RE: Vilma Suspended 1 year - Jimusmc - 05-02-2012 10:04 PM
RE: Vilma Suspended 1 year - pauliwood - 05-02-2012 11:34 PM
(05-02-2012 08:21 PM)ggp Wrote: I have to agree that the penalty was too much. Six games, eight at the most.
So fucking what? Fuck Vilma, did you forget this piece of shit urinated on the Falcon in the Georgia Dome? Fuck this piece of shit.
RE: Vilma Suspended 1 year - nativefalcon - 05-02-2012 11:51 PM
Not surprised, I figured more would be suspended. Scott Fujita got suspended, and I heard he was one of the ones rumored to have told all this info. If he did, guess it backfired on him. Oh well, I still think they should treat it like college and give the super bowl trophy for that year to the colts. lol, but its like the pats trophy when they cheated, its now stained forever. Like a Big ol Asterisk by it.
RE: Vilma Suspended 1 year - swanlee - 05-03-2012 07:35 AM
More players should have been suspended.
What is funny is the NFLPA guy asking for evidence when everyone has admitted to the crime. If people have confused or not even disputed the charges you don't need anymore evidence in a matter like this. Goodell has a ton of it but it is just silly at this point to still deny these things were going on.
Still more players should have been suspended as everyone on defense knew this was going on and participated in one way shape or form.
RE: Vilma Suspended 1 year - Jayhawk-Falcon2012 - 05-03-2012 09:41 AM
I feel its not enough, sorry but it takes two to tango. You've got the coaches who have been suspended for quite some time, now the players should face the same fate.
Vilma getting 2012 suspended, he should be happy he didn't get indefinite. who cares if he's taken out of the game he was trying to take other players out too. No if ands or buts about it. He bought into the program and executed it, or at least tried to all those times.
Zero sympathy to any athlete who's getting paid Millions to play a sport and then does something shady like this and the fan base say it's "excessive". It's a privilege not a right, if you were already living a life in the millions do you think you'd risk it all for 10,000 dollars...c'mon that's just plain stupid.
RE: Vilma Suspended 1 year - AsylumGuido - 05-03-2012 10:32 AM
(05-03-2012 07:35 AM)swanlee Wrote: More players should have been suspended.
More players were not suspended because you and I have already seen all of the "evidence" Goodell has and you can expect three of the four players who were suspended to fight it with everything they have.
And "everyone" most surely has not admitted to having a bounty/pay to injure system. Almost everyone has vehemently denied that.
Vilma's official statement:
“I am shocked and extremely disappointed by the NFL’s decision to suspend me for the 2012 season. Commissioner Roger Goodell has refused to share any of the supposed evidence he claims supports this unprecedented punishment. The reason is clear: I never paid, or intended to pay, $10,000, or any amount of money, to any player for knocking Kurt Warner, Brett Favre or any other player out of the 2009 Divisional playoff game, 2010 NFC Championship Game or any other game.
“I never set out to intentionally hurt any player and never enticed any teammate to intentionally hurt another player. I also never put any money into a bounty pool or helped to create a bounty pool intended to pay out money for injuring other players. I have always conducted myself in a professional and proud manner.
“I intend to fight this injustice, to defend my reputation, to stand up for my team and my profession, and to send a clear signal to the commissioner that the process has failed, to the detriment of me, my teammates, the New Orleans Saints and the game.”
Smith's official statement:
“I am disappointed the NFL has punished me with a four-game suspension. I have never in my career, nor as a captain asked others, to intentionally target and hurt specific opposing players. I was in no way involved in establishing or assisting Gregg Williams with implementing a bounty program. The accusations made against me are completely and 100 percent false, and I plan to appeal the decision along with the help of the NFL Players Association. Through this entire process, the NFL never notified me of what I was being accused of, nor presented me with any evidence or reasoning for this decision. I am interested in discovering who is making these specific and false accusations, and as well as why a decision was made without speaking with me and giving me the opportunity to review the facts. I am going to work with my union to clear my name and returning to the game I love and respect. Thank you to our fans for the continued support.’’
Don't forget that Goodell invited the NFLPA to New York so he could share all of his "evidence". As of today the NFLPA, still has not seen any proof of any pay to injure scheme.
De Smith Statement:
The NFL Players Association said Wednesday that it still hasn't seen any evidence from the league office of involvement by the four suspended players in what it called "an alleged pay-to-injure program."
"We have made it clear that punishment without evidence is not fair," NFLPA executive director DeMaurice Smith said in a statement. "We have spoken with our players and their representatives, and we will vigorously protect and pursue all options on their behalf."
RE: Vilma Suspended 1 year - AsylumGuido - 05-03-2012 10:42 AM
(05-02-2012 11:34 PM)pauliwood Wrote: So fucking what? Fuck Vilma, did you forget this piece of shit urinated on the Falcon in the Georgia Dome? Fuck this piece of shit.
There you go again. You have no idea what you are talking about. No one urinated on the Falcon. That was cleared up a long time ago. Even the Falcon's players knew that was bogus. Pete Prisco asked one of the Saints defensive players what they were doing out on the field after the game. He replied in passing that they were "posing on the Falcon". Pricso then posted a blog that said the player stated they were "pissing on the Falcon".
Posed pictures of the defensive bunch verify the true story, as does the dozens of non-Saints players that were still out on the field at the time. Nobody saw the Saints pissing on the the Falcon.
You apparently believe everything you read.
RE: Vilma Suspended 1 year - AsylumGuido - 05-03-2012 10:49 AM
(05-02-2012 08:25 PM)JDaveG Wrote: One of these things is not like the others,
My statement that there were "no excuses necessary" referred to my expectations on the success of the Saints this season. I have repeatedly said that any punishment would by no means cripple the Saints and, as unjust as I feel the punishment was, it will not cripple the Saints at all. No excuses will be needed.