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Would You Hire This Guy? - cooperbh - 01-16-2012 03:30 AM
You are head coach stuck with a sluggish offense that is in desperate need of a makeover. The following resume comes across your desk...
Quote:College Coaching Experience: 9 years (SD State, Indiana State, Miami Ohio, Illinois)
Seven years as position coach/coaching assistant.
Two years as OC for Miami Ohio.
NFL Coaching Experience: 9 years
Three years as QBs Coach for Philadelphia Eagles. Responsible for the development of such notable passers Ty Detmer, Koy Detmer, Bobby Hoying and Doug Pederson, all of which were able to maintain passer ratings in the 60's or less during that time.
Three years as OC for NY Giants. Oversaw an offense that finished 15th, 21st and 22nd in scoring.
Three years as Assistant Head Coach/QBs Coach/Passing Game Coordinator for Dallas Cowboys. Conceived and implemented aerial attack that ranked 17th, 15th and 15th in the NFL.
Unimpressive to say the least. That said, the candidate in question is known as one of the brightest football minds in the league today and went on to absolutely nail the interview.
Do you make the hire?
RE: Would You Hire This Guy? - Paulitik - 01-16-2012 03:42 AM
Sean Payton getting hired to a team that had just fired Jim Haslett, spent the fall under Lake Ponchartrain and had no QB, is no comparison to what the Falcons just did.
Atlanta in 2008, and New Orleans in 2005 weren't locales that elite talented coaching candidates were lining up to go coach.
What potential OC candidate would not love to coach Matt Ryan, Julio Jone, Roddy White, and Tony Gonzales?
Besides show me where Sean Payton coached the #32 ranked anything? If Dirk Koetter had coached that Jags team to 22, I might be singing a different tune.
RE: Would You Hire This Guy? - Aftermath - 01-16-2012 03:46 AM
there is really no parallel between the two situations, Falcons have a good thing and are looking to make it better, should be able to attract all the best talent. Saints were in a terrible situation and could afford to take a chance on an unproven candidate (not that many other coaches were lining up for the job)
RE: Would You Hire This Guy? - Peyton - 01-16-2012 03:47 AM
Sean Payton was stripped of his play calling duties with the Giants, and then again with the Cowboys. He had to grow into the coach he is today. He also got the right QB.
For every Sean Payton and Mike McCarthy, there are a dozen coaches who went the other way.
RE: Would You Hire This Guy? - Paulitik - 01-16-2012 04:00 AM
Look, any competent football coach can win games with this offense. What about this guy says he can win when it counts? Nothing. Talking about desperate teams making lucky head coaching hires is apples and oranges. We know we have elite talent, why didn't we try to get the best guy to lead them possible?
RE: Would You Hire This Guy? - DaMeatTrough - 01-16-2012 04:07 AM
(01-16-2012 04:00 AM)Paulitik Wrote: Look, any competent football coach can win games with this offense. What about this guy says he can win when it counts? Nothing. Talking about desperate teams making lucky head coaching hires is apples and oranges. We know we have elite talent, why didn't we try to get the best guy to lead them possible?
You're like a coaching agnostic. You don't believe in it at all until you see success.
RE: Would You Hire This Guy? - RS91 - 01-16-2012 04:10 AM
(01-16-2012 03:30 AM)cooperbh Wrote: You are head coach stuck with a sluggish offense that is in desperate need of a makeover. The following resume comes across your desk...
Unimpressive to say the least. That said, the candidate in question is known as one of the brightest football minds in the league today and went on to absolutely nail the interview.
Do you make the hire?
Would I hire Sean Payton after he got middle of the road production out of guys like Quincy Carter, a washed up Drew Bledsoe, and Vinny Testaverde's corpse? Why yes I would.
RE: Would You Hire This Guy? - RnB - 01-16-2012 04:11 AM
This was awesome cooper.
RE: Would You Hire This Guy? - Paulitik - 01-16-2012 04:15 AM
(01-16-2012 04:07 AM)DaMeatTrough Wrote: You're like a coaching agnostic. You don't believe in it at all until you see success.I won't in this occasion. I have been fine with every decision this regime has made, even though I'm still not comfortable with the Julio trade, as much as I love Julio, I supported it and believed in it. I don't trust Mike Smith after this season, especially after seeing the way he's coached the last few weeks. Letting him go into his comfort zone with a knee-jerk hire after an embarrassing playoff loss and not taking the time to explore all possibilities, does nothing to make me feel like this is a smart hire.
Nothing short of a minimum of 2 playoff wins, and a top 5 offensive statistical performance will convince me that this was the best choice we could have made. I don't think that's unreasonable, and that doesn;t mean I'm cheering for Koetter to fail just because I'm not enamored with the hire.
As much as I despised Mularkey, I cheered for his success. I will give Koetter the same, while criticizing him until he proves me wrong.
RE: Would You Hire This Guy? - DaMeatTrough - 01-16-2012 04:24 AM
(01-16-2012 04:15 AM)Paulitik Wrote: I won't in this occasion. I have been fine with every decision this regime has made, even though I'm still not comfortable with the Julio trade, as much as I love Julio, I supported it and believed in it. I don't trust Mike Smith after this season, especially after seeing the way he's coached the last few weeks. Letting him go into his comfort zone with a knee-jerk hire after an embarrassing playoff loss and not taking the time to explore all possibilities, does nothing to make me feel like this is a smart hire.
Nothing short of a minimum of 2 playoff wins, and a top 5 offensive statistical performance will convince me that this was the best choice we could have made. I don't think that's unreasonable, and that doesn;t mean I'm cheering for Koetter to fail just because I'm not enamored with the hire.
As much as I despised Mularkey, I cheered for his success. I will give Koetter the same, while criticizing him until he proves me wrong.
I have questioned Mike Smith for a few years now when nobody else would even dare. This is his last chance. Also, I feel the same way as you about the Julio trade.
But nobody knows which possibilities the front office explored and at this point in time, it's presumptuous to assume that they were enamored by Dirk. Just because they couldn't talk to Clements or other assistants doesn't mean they couldn't research them and talk with contacts who have worked with them in the past. The only option is to trust their judgments or complain, and I am doing the former because if this move doesn't work then they will be gone in a year.