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RE: Dirk Koetter Talks Option Routes Video - FullMetalFalcon23 - 01-16-2012 04:59 AM
They said they will keep the no huddle as it is an obvious strength of theirs. It is going no where, I think Koetter will want to keep that as a string in his bow. That to me would be like taking the play action game away from Rivers. You don't do that. Blank's boy is Ryan. He isn't gonna have some guy come in who won't let Matt play with his favourite toy.
RE: Dirk Koetter Talks Option Routes Video - FullMetalFalcon23 - 01-16-2012 05:27 AM
And that video should be a good indication as to why the Falcons made the hire look at those route combinations, 3 of the 5 roots there had options. That's one play call that based on what the defense does has several looks and out comes. Are guys can fight a little more with this because he is giving the freedom to go elsewhere than sitting in a zone and then evacuating.
I can't say MM didn't have that, but I never got that impression seeing as the only guy we talked about having that option or the only guy coaches would analyse our read option on was Tony.
The only thing I will come back to us that I really hope that we will see routes where our slot guy or others, attack the depth of the linebackers drop trying to get in behind them. Even if he can't be passed to if our back or shorter route beats his direct coverage pushing those lbs creates a lot of running room for someone.
I was not on board with this signing before it happened, but available research and seeing where the guy has a scheme that was far more vast than what we saw and marrying that with players who are the type of quality he never gets to work with, allows me to feel more confident in this signing. It will be interesting to see what happens to our run blocking scheme. Let's face it even if we want to go heavy on passing, we will still run and jones drew was a supreme back who still put up yards despite being the only true weapon. Will be interesting to see how he gets more bang out of the running game.
RE: Dirk Koetter Talks Option Routes Video - JDaveG - 01-16-2012 09:15 AM
(01-16-2012 03:12 AM)DaMeatTrough Wrote: So I guess it's pronounced Cutter? lol
Yeah. I would have thought "Ketter," but I took 2 semesters of German in college......(and promptly forgot everything I learned once I graduated).
RE: Dirk Koetter Talks Option Routes Video - JDaveG - 01-16-2012 09:20 AM
(01-16-2012 05:27 AM)FullMetalFalcon23 Wrote: And that video should be a good indication as to why the Falcons made the hire look at those route combinations, 3 of the 5 roots there had options. That's one play call that based on what the defense does has several looks and out comes. Are guys can fight a little more with this because he is giving the freedom to go elsewhere than sitting in a zone and then evacuating.
I can't say MM didn't have that, but I never got that impression seeing as the only guy we talked about having that option or the only guy coaches would analyse our read option on was Tony.
I don't know for sure, but the impression I got from listening to them is that our option routes were primarily designed for TG. I'm sure there were others in there (most coaches use them), but if you're running 5 routes and you have 3, that's a bit more complex than running 3 routes (as was typical for us at best) and running 1 or even 2. The odds of finding a hole in the defense increase dramatically if 3 different guys are running options.
RE: Dirk Koetter Talks Option Routes Video - mdrake34 - 01-16-2012 09:36 AM
(01-16-2012 09:15 AM)JDaveG Wrote: Yeah. I would have thought "Ketter," but I took 2 semesters of German in college......(and promptly forgot everything I learned once I graduated).
Ze Germans?
RE: Dirk Koetter Talks Option Routes Video - JDaveG - 01-16-2012 09:41 AM
(01-16-2012 09:36 AM)mdrake34 Wrote: Ze Germans?
Ja.
RE: Dirk Koetter Talks Option Routes Video - mdrake34 - 01-16-2012 09:50 AM
(01-16-2012 09:41 AM)JDaveG Wrote: Ja.
RE: Dirk Koetter Talks Option Routes Video - RnB - 01-16-2012 10:06 AM
Thanks for the video a-town.
This is very informative, creative, and shows that DK IS very familiar with how to attack defenses, specifically with the passing game. It also shows that he knows where his strengths, in terms of personnel, lie and formulates plays around his strongest players. Its quite obvious he knows what the hell is up with the passing game.
I am looking forward to see how his running game compliments that. I am all for us taking a more agressive offensive approach with the passing game being the emphasis, but do not want to see us shift too far away from a strong, clock eating rushing attack. We have three backs that are all very good at what they do (if we re-sign Snelling) and perhaps that will give DK more room to expand upon his offensive scheme in the rushing department. He only had one back to work with in Jacksonville and a very non-threatening receiver corps. With the talent we have on the offensive side of the ball, this guy may be able to formulate a scheme that can cause some damage.
It is very, very unlikely that DK refuses to incorporate the no- huddle we have been using the past few years into his offensive scheme. I am sure he will become very familiar with it after watching all our tape and conferring with Matt. I don't know how it will fit into the scheme or if Matt will have as much freedom with it as he did with MM, but I am willing to bet that after some work DK will be able to mold the no huddle around his scheme without much of an issue. All of our guys are very familiar with it and Matt is great at calling plays out of it, however, it will probably take quite a bit of work for DK, and study/practice from our guys, to mesh it with the new offense.
RE: Dirk Koetter Talks Option Routes Video - FullMetalFalcon23 - 01-16-2012 10:55 AM
(01-16-2012 10:06 AM)RnB Wrote: Thanks for the video a-town.
This is very informative, creative, and shows that DK IS very familiar with how to attack defenses, specifically with the passing game. It also shows that he knows where his strengths, in terms of personnel, lie and formulates plays around his strongest players. Its quite obvious he knows what the hell is up with the passing game.
I am looking forward to see how his running game compliments that. I am all for us taking a more agressive offensive approach with the passing game being the emphasis, but do not want to see us shift too far away from a strong, clock eating rushing attack. We have three backs that are all very good at what they do (if we re-sign Snelling) and perhaps that will give DK more room to expand upon his offensive scheme in the rushing department. He only had one back to work with in Jacksonville and a very non-threatening receiver corps. With the talent we have on the offensive side of the ball, this guy may be able to formulate a scheme that can cause some damage.
It is very, very unlikely that DK refuses to incorporate the no- huddle we have been using the past few years into his offensive scheme. I am sure he will become very familiar with it after watching all our tape and conferring with Matt. I don't know how it will fit into the scheme or if Matt will have as much freedom with it as he did with MM, but I am willing to bet that after some work DK will be able to mold the no huddle around his scheme without much of an issue. All of our guys are very familiar with it and Matt is great at calling plays out of it, however, it will probably take quite a bit of work for DK, and study/practice from our guys, to mesh it with the new offense.
I think Koetter will merge the scheme with the no huddle concept. The plays we use will change out to be high percentage incarnations of his own.
Remember this is a guy who plays to his guys strengths. That cerebral game is Matt's biggest strength and with him being a vet in this team and one that thrives in that attack you can't just walk in take it away and lock him into your system.
I think it is likely we may not see the no huddle fire up straight away may only see it on occassion if the guys aren't settled in it. But on the flipside the new energy in the building will likely have the guys ready to learn and take in something completely fresh. Koetter has played in a conference who has had the pain of watching Manning dissect their Defenses. You have a QB who can do that, you know the frustration that that had caused. Marry that concept in with your offense and make it easier on yourself to help this team make their transition.
TD and Blank said they would be looking for someone who would be willing to develop the no huddle.
RE: Dirk Koetter Talks Option Routes Video - Falcons all the way! - 01-16-2012 11:38 AM
(01-16-2012 03:50 AM)Peyton Wrote: We don't really have any other option.
I'll be done bitching about it after tonight, but I'm not going to like this hire until I see a reason to like it.
Agreed.