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Is Matt Ryan on the hot seat? - McUser - 01-09-2012 02:10 AM
Quote:Early exits in the NFL playoffs are becoming a recurring theme for Matt Ryan and the Atlanta Falcons. Their inability to win a big game might be frustrating, but it shouldn't be a threat to Ryan's job.
Despite the New York Giants' overwhelming defensive effort, Ryan wasn't the reason the Falcons lost this game. Ryan didn't turn the ball over and his offensive line got beat on Atlanta's two fourth-down attempts in which he took it himself.
The Falcons quarterback might have had five or more completions alone if Roddy White and Julio Jones could hold onto the ball. You can't be too effective as a quarterback if your receivers have holes in their hands.
And to further stack the deck on Ryan's 41-pass day, head coach Mike Smith abandoned his running game, making his 1,300-yard running back non-existent during the game, most notably the two fourth-down situations that didn't work.
In total, the Falcons only ran the ball 21 times for 64 yards with 15 carries for 45 yards coming from Michael Turner. What was their recipe for success during the season turned out to be the nail in their coffin come playoff time.
Without much going on around him and a dominating Giants' pass rush, I'm not sure what more Ryan could've done.
That's not to say that the past two seasons you couldn't throw any blame at Ryan for the Falcons' losses, but you simply can't do that in this instance.
Besides, even if you throw a portion of blame at Ryan for this disappointment, are you really ready to throw him on the scrap heap just yet? Is it wise to throw a fourth-year quarterback in the garbage after he throws for 4,117 yards and 29 touchdowns this past season?
Of course not.
If the Falcons did, Ryan would be unemployed for all of two seconds with all the teams in the NFL needing a quarterback. I think it's time to place the blame where it really belongs, and that's on the guys around him and his coaches.
Ryan is certainly good enough to be a Super Bowl quarterback, but Atlanta needs to put it altogether if that's ever going to happen.
Until then, Ryan will continue to suit up as Atlanta's quarterback and continue to put up numbers that will make him this franchise's greatest of all time someday.
Very good observation, it echos exactly how I feel about him and his performance today. Something has to change, he however, is not it. According to that Yahoo report about the play-calls you can't get on him as bad as some have today. That isn't to say he is blameless in his time here, because he certainly has made mistakes.
But Matt Ryan isn't a punk, coward, or pussy. His coaches and game plans, absolutely are. What confidence can you have going into a game when your coaches say, "your line can't block these guys kid, we're gonna dink and dunk and throw in the towel. No deep throws, or plays that have to develop." When your bosses tell you not to fuck up and throw the ball down the field, a good employee listens. And Ryan is a good employee, possibly the most coachable player I've ever closely followed. Maybe too coachable. He probably realizes that his offensive game plans were better at Boston College, I'd look down and worried too.
The person on offense who absolutely has to go is Mike Mularkey, what Roddy White said, which I believe, is horse shit. You should never in a game plan totally take away a part of your game on purpose. "Hey guys, the Ravens play the run too good for our line. We won't run the ball once today, passes only." From what I gather, that's what's been happening. We've been wondering what the hell has been up all year and I think Roddy's quote answers the question.
In summary, it just irritates me to see all the people calling for a 4th year QB's head. Dude is 26 years old. Think about that, who you gonna find for a franchise that's as good as him and 26? Waiting....still waiting....and time. There's no one, and don't say Luck either. He seems polished and ready, and I like the guy. But he's still unproven. After sitting through all of the QB ineptitude you'd think the fans would see what we have here. As a QB and as a team, front office, and owner. People want to talk about Vick, and Chandler. Where is the staying power with those guys? Oh yeah that's right, there was none.
We haven't won anything yet, but I feel confident in saying over the next 10-12 years with Matt at the helm we have as good a chance as any, regardless of him being 0-3 in the playoffs.
Remember: Before we through the guy under the bus, he's not the first QB to not win his first post season game. Here's a few guys to play QB in a superbowl, Stan Humphries, Rex Grossman, Tony Eason. They had to win a playoff game to get there. Are they better than Ryan???
4 years of a guys career means nothing. Just wanted to say all that, Ryan's name is about to get crushed this year, hope he's got Payton Manning on speed dial for advice.
RE: Is Matt Ryan on the hot seat? - Knight of God - 01-09-2012 02:20 AM
good post
RE: Is Matt Ryan on the hot seat? - Paulitik - 01-09-2012 02:23 AM
Matt Ryan will be here at least until he's 30. So the haters are stuck with him. Unless he becomes a pick machine, and is the obvious reason we are losing multiplie games. That's not going to happen. He played as well as any QB could with the system and play calls he was given. Maybe he should challenge the coaching staff more, but he wasn't the reason we lost this game.
Good post. Where did the quote come from?
RE: Is Matt Ryan on the hot seat? - McUser - 01-09-2012 02:23 AM
Thanks man, I just wish more people could use those bad words "reason" and "logic". But to no avail, this loss sucked. But losing a franchise QB would be worse. Just ask...Falcons fans?!?! Maybe we didn't have Joey Harrington at QB long enough for some of us to realize how bad it could be.
RE: Is Matt Ryan on the hot seat? - McUser - 01-09-2012 02:24 AM
(01-09-2012 02:23 AM)Paulitik Wrote: Matt Ryan will be here at least until he's 30. So the haters are stuck with him. Unless he becomes a pick machine, and is the obvious reason we are losing multiplie games. He's not. He played as well as any QB could with the system and play calls he was given. Maybe he should challenge the coaching staff more, but he wasn't the reason we lost this game.
Good post. Where did the quote come from?
here's the quote, sorry lol
RE: Is Matt Ryan on the hot seat? - Knight of God - 01-09-2012 02:25 AM
(01-09-2012 02:23 AM)McUser Wrote: Thanks man, I just wish more people could use those bad words "reason" and "logic". But to no avail, this loss sucked. But losing a franchise QB would be worse. Just ask...Falcons fans?!?! Maybe we didn't have Joey Harrington at QB long enough for some of us to realize how bad it could be.
As much as I was against drafting him, this loss and at least 3 others were not his fault. 2 last year weren't.
RE: Is Matt Ryan on the hot seat? - McUser - 01-09-2012 02:27 AM
I agree, for the record I wanted him really bad. But anyways, it is a mature line of thinking that you show with that post. Most don't see things that way, or don't want to.
RE: Is Matt Ryan on the hot seat? - raysnill1 - 01-09-2012 02:31 AM
I really hate that Ryan is gonna get bashed to hell after this game cause he damn sure doesn't deserve it. I mean really, who tells their line 'you guys can't stop the pass rush so we're gonna gonna out like pussies' I wouldn't wanna play for em. well it turned out that they could block them straight up and instead of adjusting to reflect that we stayed vanilla. then to add insult to injury, Tuck said they knew exactly what Ryan was gonna do on both 4th down plays because they saw them on film, but we can't throw an effin screen pass? TBH, I can't even really be that mad at the O-line either, they only gave up 2 sacks and one was on our last play of the game, but we do need to upgrade the RG position & a stud LT. I'm with Matt until we get someone to use all the weapons we have and if we still can't get over the hump then I'll look at matt
RE: Is Matt Ryan on the hot seat? - Anomaly - 01-09-2012 02:31 AM
Anyone who wants to get rid of Ryan is an idiot plain and simple. At most there are only 5 or 6 QBs better than him in the NFL right now. People just don't know how good they have it sometimes.
RE: Is Matt Ryan on the hot seat? - McUser - 01-09-2012 02:35 AM
(01-09-2012 02:31 AM)Va Falcon 88 Wrote: Anyone who wants to get rid of Ryan is an idiot plain and simple. At most there are only 5 or 6 QBs better than him in the NFL right now. People just don't know how good they have it sometimes.
Like I said, we can get Harrington back. Or maybe Leftwich would better suit their fancy? lol