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What Is It With The Media Thinking Matt Can't Win With His Arm. - The Falconer - 01-04-2012 05:50 PM
So I was surfing around on profootballtalk.com and see the final power rankings. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/04/week-17-power-rankings-2/
7. Falcons (No. 9; 10-6): Quarterback Matt Ryan won’t be taken seriously until he wins a playoff game. He won’t win on Sunday if he tries too hard to win with his arm.
So It seems to me that one side of the mouth says he won't be taken seriously unless he wins in the playoffs, then the other side basically says he can't win a playoff game if he tries "too hard" with his arm.
Which is it?
What is the deal with so called analysts thinking that Matt isn't good enough to win with his arm?
Also I see on NFLN that other analysts say that the falcons can't win without Michael Turner going off.
I don't get it, I really don't.
It takes a team to win folks and yes QB is the most important position, but what in 4 years have we seen that suggests that Matt hasn't won with his arm?
What about basically the last half of the season when Turner wasn't going off for more than 100 yards for most of the that stretch and we still won with Matt at the helm.
RE: What Is It With The Media Thinking Matt Can't Win With His Arm. - Anomaly - 01-04-2012 06:02 PM
I know Jamie Dukes is always saying we can't win throwing the ball a million times like the Saints and Packers, but his reason is that we don't have the offensive line to do it, which I actually agree with. Now the other "experts" that are saying we can't winning throwing it because of Matt Ryan's supposed limitations I think those people are out of their mind.
RE: What Is It With The Media Thinking Matt Can't Win With His Arm. - Radical - 01-04-2012 06:35 PM
Fun Facts:
Tom Brady is 3-2 when he throws 40+ times. His 3 worst games on the year came when he threw over 40 times. Outside of his first two games of the year, where he won a by a large margin throwing over 40 times, he has either barely won or barely lost throwing over 40 times.
Brees when Saints combine for more than 100 yards rushing in 2011? Undefeated
W 28/35 for 389 yards, 5 TDs, 1 INT
W 23/39 for 307 yards, 4 TDs, 2 INT
W 32/40 for 412 yards, 5 TDs
W 36/47 for 337 yards, 2 TDs
W 26/36 for 342 yards, 3 TDs
W 24/38 for 363 yards, 4 TDs
W 27/36 for 258 yards, 2 TDs, 1 INT
W 31/35 for 325 yards, 5 TDs
W 32/45 for 359 yards, 2 TDs, 1 INT
W 31/45 for 351 yards, 1 TD, 2 INTs
W 26/37 for 270 yards, 3 TDs
Total: 316 of 433 for 3713 yards, 36 TDs, 7 INTs, 119.6 QB rating
Brees when Saints combine for less than 100 yards rushing? 2-3.
W by 3 in OT 30/43 for 322 yards, 2 TDs
L by 10 30/44 for 269 yards, 1 TD, 2 INTs
L by 6 29/45 for 383 yards, 1 TD, 3 INTs
W by 7 31/45 for 370 yards, 3 TDs, 2 INTs
L by 8 32/49 for 419 yards, 3 TDs, 0 INTs
Total: 152/226 for 1763 yards, 10 TDs, 7 INTs, 92.5 QB rating
Aaron Rodgers has only thrown more than 40 times once all year, and the Packers won by 3 points. His lone loss came from when he completed less than 50% of his passes.
It is a myth that even the top QBs in the NFL are regularly chucking it 40+ times without any help from the rushing attack and consistently winning games.
RE: What Is It With The Media Thinking Matt Can't Win With His Arm. - Raptor Claw - 01-04-2012 08:03 PM
(01-04-2012 06:35 PM)Radical Wrote: Fun Facts:
Tom Brady is 3-2 when he throws 40+ times. His 3 worst games on the year came when he threw over 40 times. Outside of his first two games of the year, where he won a by a large margin throwing over 40 times, he has either barely won or barely lost throwing over 40 times.
Brees when Saints combine for more than 100 yards rushing in 2011? Undefeated
W 28/35 for 389 yards, 5 TDs, 1 INT
W 23/39 for 307 yards, 4 TDs, 2 INT
W 32/40 for 412 yards, 5 TDs
W 36/47 for 337 yards, 2 TDs
W 26/36 for 342 yards, 3 TDs
W 24/38 for 363 yards, 4 TDs
W 27/36 for 258 yards, 2 TDs, 1 INT
W 31/35 for 325 yards, 5 TDs
W 32/45 for 359 yards, 2 TDs, 1 INT
W 31/45 for 351 yards, 1 TD, 2 INTs
W 26/37 for 270 yards, 3 TDs
Total: 316 of 433 for 3713 yards, 36 TDs, 7 INTs, 119.6 QB rating
Brees when Saints combine for less than 100 yards rushing? 2-3.
W by 3 in OT 30/43 for 322 yards, 2 TDs
L by 10 30/44 for 269 yards, 1 TD, 2 INTs
L by 6 29/45 for 383 yards, 1 TD, 3 INTs
W by 7 31/45 for 370 yards, 3 TDs, 2 INTs
L by 8 32/49 for 419 yards, 3 TDs, 0 INTs
Total: 152/226 for 1763 yards, 10 TDs, 7 INTs, 92.5 QB rating
Aaron Rodgers has only thrown more than 40 times all year, and the Packers won by 3 points. His lone loss came from when he completed less than 50% of his passes.
It is a myth that even the top QBs in the NFL are regularly chucking it 40+ times without any help from the rushing attack and consistently winning games.
Now you just have to stop letting these facts interfere with this often repeated line of bullshit!
RE: What Is It With The Media Thinking Matt Can't Win With His Arm. - Jesus - 01-04-2012 10:12 PM
Some tool on NFL network said that despite the offensive weapons in Atlanta the Falcons can't win because the giants can rush the passer. Forget that the NFC's top rusher is in Atlanta or that the giants D is terrible. Forget that Svitek shutdown Jared Allen. The falcons have no chance.
RE: What Is It With The Media Thinking Matt Can't Win With His Arm. - TeamPlayer1 - 01-05-2012 12:16 AM
A stone cold fact will ruin a good argument.
RE: What Is It With The Media Thinking Matt Can't Win With His Arm. - phocis850 - 01-05-2012 12:30 AM
(01-04-2012 10:12 PM)Jesus Wrote: Some tool on NFL network said that despite the offensive weapons in Atlanta the Falcons can't win because the giants can rush the passer. Forget that the NFC's top rusher is in Atlanta or that the giants D is terrible. Forget that Svitek shutdown Jared Allen. The falcons have no chance.
I wouldn't call them terrible. If their DL is playing at the level they have the ability to play at, then it will make running and passing both tough.
RE: What Is It With The Media Thinking Matt Can't Win With His Arm. - juraitwaluzka - 01-05-2012 12:45 AM
As to the original question:
Quote:What Is It With The Media Thinking Matt Can't Win With His Arm.
It's because they are dumbasses.
RE: What Is It With The Media Thinking Matt Can't Win With His Arm. - Drathdon - 01-05-2012 08:56 AM
"Dumbasses" is the correct answer.
I would have also accepted "clueless".
RE: What Is It With The Media Thinking Matt Can't Win With His Arm. - Paulitik - 01-05-2012 11:03 AM
(01-05-2012 08:56 AM)Drathdon Wrote: "Dumbasses" is the correct answer.
I would have also accepted "clueless".
It's ignorance, but it's mostly laziness.