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D. Rob new position maybe? - komic - 12-31-2011 05:48 AM
I know alot of people have called out dunta for his poor play in a few games this season and some seem to think that maybe its not his fault that he allows some of the catches as much as it is the schemes fault.
i dont feel like going into too much detail... its like 4 in the morning and im just randomly thinking but do you all think that maybe Dunta would play better in Decoud's spot since im pretty sure we all know how hard of a hitter he is and he is pretty fast. And if it actually worked it it would be like killing two birds with one stone you know?
not really looking for any negative feedback thats clearly unnecessary.
sorry for any bad grammar you may find again i say its 4 in the morning and im not in a spell checking mood.
take the poll and leave any thought out and useful responses below. thank you.
(Btw Radical i used the prefix just to make you happy)
RE: D. Rob new position maybe? - FullMetalFalcon23 - 12-31-2011 08:14 AM
I voted yes as he seems to have more upside there than downside. However what needs to be taken into consideration is as a safety you are the last line of defense. Dunta's lack of body control when going in full steam could create several issues.
1. Missed tackles from your safety be it on the ground or in the air creates big plays.
2. He will need to control himself and time his hits from the safety position or we could be seeing him fined and suspended during the season.
3. I'm not sure how he would do against Tight Ends. Can't be worse than what we have in DeCoud and having him there at least brings that second thought of whether he is bringing a tree or a whole forest on a play.
4. Moving Dunta to safety solves one problem but what happens on the corner spot. If Franks is ready for perimeter duty then perhaps but obviously it is a move we make with at least one starting quality corner in place otherwise we are effectively shifting our weakness from safety to corner.
On the flipside here are the benefits.
1. Restructure him and keep a guy who probably should have been moved far earlier rather than let him go. You maintain the chemistry in the backfield to a degree. Also wider than football, the guy does a lot in the community.
2. Playing Moore at Free Safety and Robinson at Strong Safety. If we have a new guy in at Robinsons old spot having a guy like Moore over him would help to settle that player in whether it is one of our current guys or someone new having someone behind them who isn't just starting out at the position makes a lot of sense. At the same time. You have a very solid Grimes holding down his spot with Dunta over the top. This could be in the beginning a boom and bust type pairing. But with Dunta being further off the line he should be able to see and react better than he does currently when he is off the line and scrambling around covering someone immediately in front of them.
Making a move like this however requires that we have a formidable pass rush in play though. That would take a lot of heat off the secondary, otherwise you would find that the falcons secondary would get tested quite aggressively early on. If the pass rush can force the ball out quick then Dunta can play down hill and that is where he can do the best of his damage. He can break up down field plays with his athleticism and timing but there wouldn't beamy Ints I am assuming. However if he can come down hill force fumbles and incompletions then that is where his greatest value will be.
Finally you have to look at it and say does Robinson give the Falcons the best shot at having a Dynamic player alongside Will Mo at the safety position. Guys like Reed and Polamalu have sent the blue print for the Modern NFL safety these are guys who can, or in their better days could cover the entire field and still bring it hard and heavy. If an evaluation doesn't show that Dunta can be that guy then he may be a short term bandaid but not a longterm solution.
RE: D. Rob new position maybe? - komic - 12-31-2011 10:16 AM
Glad you actually thought about it. i wouldnt mind having grimes and dunta on the same side either as long as dunta did his job that would be deadly... interesting
RE: D. Rob new position maybe? - Jayhawk-Falcon2012 - 12-31-2011 11:37 AM
I voted Yes, but my only concern is are we confident enough to allow franks/owens/walls play the #2 spot... To me, and watching through the season I don't feel confident with that group, other than maybe Hayden.
Owens; plays fantastic ST reference the Minnesota and Saints game, but every time he's been on the Field for the Defense he's showed me 2 plays where he actually did what he was supposed to and at the rest of the time he just seems lost and doesn't know what he's doing.
Franks; solid player, but again falls into the Owens mold, doesn't seem to know what his assignment is on the Field. I think it was the first Saints game (correct me if I'm wrong) but there was a 3-wide set on the field, and Franks was covering the Slot WR, play starts and he was covering someone else and allows a TD, in which we saw Grimes trying to make a play on. Not something I'd want to see in the #2 corner.
D. walls; haven't seen anything that thinks he's ready.
Hayden; the only CB i think could handle the #2 opposite of Grimes and not be terrible. The only concern is health. When he was healthy I liked what I saw in his game play. I honestly thought he should've started over Dunta after a few weeks of starting that Nickel. BUT now that he's on IR with a Toe injury, I don't know if we're willing to keep more injury prone players on the roster.
My hope is that Owens/Franks can finally understand the speed and scheme of the Defense well enough to not allow big plays to happen, in the case we move Dunta to FS/SS.
Sorry for the Rant.
RE: D. Rob new position maybe? - Paprika Neck - 12-31-2011 03:32 PM
only if he's 100% committed. i think he would make an excellent free safety if he went about it with a tebow like effort.
RE: D. Rob new position maybe? - NZFalcon - 12-31-2011 05:27 PM
Not until we have someone better to fill the #2 CB spot. We would just end up with the worse problem of having Owens out on the field lol
RE: D. Rob new position maybe? - papachaz - 12-31-2011 08:02 PM
i voted yes, but only if they're going to continue to use him the way they have the last two years. i guess it all depends on if BVG is here again next year and doesn't make any changes as how he game plans and uses all his guys
RE: D. Rob new position maybe? - Knight of God - 01-01-2012 02:11 AM
Yes, the position itself NEEDS more guys like him. I think this change should have been made back in Houston (said that before a long time ago) so this is just a no brainer to me. I made the switch and life got way better football-wise.
RE: D. Rob new position maybe? - Knight of God - 01-01-2012 02:12 AM
(12-31-2011 08:02 PM)papachaz Wrote: i voted yes, but only if they're going to continue to use him the way they have the last two years. i guess it all depends on if BVG is here again next year and doesn't make any changes as how he game plans and uses all his guys
Will depend on Mike Smith...not BvG.