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RE: Mularkey is just that, and he had nothing to do with Rodgers TD - FullMetalFalcon23 - 12-15-2011 01:01 PM
Dont get me wrong if Ryan wanted to post playing become an OC. I believe he would be better than MM, but saying that now is a bit rash. I do think Ryan appears to have a better feel for the pulse of a game and call plays effectively. It would be interesting to see the success ratio of plays called from the huddle versus plays Matt calls out of the no huddle or at the line. Problem is we know Matt calls the plays in no huddle but we don't know how many plays he calls from in the huddle.
RE: Mularkey is just that, and he had nothing to do with Rodgers TD - cooperbh - 12-15-2011 01:32 PM
(12-15-2011 01:01 PM)FullMetalFalcon23 Wrote: Dont get me wrong if Ryan wanted to post playing become an OC. I believe he would be better than MM, but saying that now is a bit rash. I do think Ryan appears to have a better feel for the pulse of a game and call plays effectively. It would be interesting to see the success ratio of plays called from the huddle versus plays Matt calls out of the no huddle or at the line. Problem is we know Matt calls the plays in no huddle but we don't know how many plays he calls from in the huddle.
If the play was a success, it was called by Ryan. If the play was a failure, it was called by Mularkey.
Once you get an agenda, this game becomes very easy to understand.
RE: Mularkey is just that, and he had nothing to do with Rodgers TD - RnB - 12-15-2011 01:36 PM
Our offense is great. This year there have been growing pains due to adding JJ, the lockout, bad OL play early, inconsistent WR play, JJ's injuries, and the slow transition of the offense to something better.
Someone, I think Beef, pointed out that this team is collaborative on the offensive side of the ball. That probably holds true for the defensive side as well. This is not some authoritarian regime run from the top down. We have a franchise now that is built for long-term success and functions as a true team should.
Its time for people to stop looking for someone to blame and start celebrating what the Falcons have been doing the past few years and continue to do this season. Blaming something/someone and making ridiculous accusations not based on fact is for fucking chumps. Don't be a chump. Our team identifies problems, corrects them, and has a proven track record under TD and Smitty of doing that very well. They aren't blaming fans and making excuses about why Atlanta fans are so pathetic, so why are fans doing the same thing to our team?
Ill tell you why, because our fans ARE pathetic and the reason why can not be explained/understood; or maybe it is too deep rooted and complicated to begin to address it.
(12-15-2011 01:01 PM)FullMetalFalcon23 Wrote: Dont get me wrong if Ryan wanted to post playing become an OC. I believe he would be better than MM, but saying that now is a bit rash. I do think Ryan appears to have a better feel for the pulse of a game and call plays effectively. It would be interesting to see the success ratio of plays called from the huddle versus plays Matt calls out of the no huddle or at the line. Problem is we know Matt calls the plays in no huddle but we don't know how many plays he calls from in the huddle.
Why are people so interested in who calls what plays and when they call them? Are people looking for evidence that MM is NOT earning his paycheck? Do people honestly believe he has done nothing for our team and sits around with his thumb up his ass? Matt is not going to be our OC and play QB for us. MM is not going to suddenly be relegated to having no control over our offense. I understand wanting to know, for information's sake, but the real reason people want to know is to lay more unnecessary blame. Its disgusting.
(12-15-2011 01:32 PM)cooperbh Wrote: If the play was a success, it was called by Ryan. If the play was a failure, it was called by Mularkey.
Once you get an agenda, this game becomes very easy to understand.
That about sums it up.
Logical deduction and complicated problem solving are not things most people feel comfortable doing. They would rather point a finger and say I told you so.
RE: Mularkey is just that, and he had nothing to do with Rodgers TD - Peyton - 12-15-2011 01:45 PM
Matt Ryan is in the same mold as Peyton Manning. I'm not saying he is as good as Manning, not yet, not by any means, but simply that his operation is much the same. He is the coach on the field. Mularkey and Matt work the game plan together, but come game day, most of the play calls are ultimately on Ryan, because he has the responsibility of checking the defensive alignment presnap and getting the Falcons into the proper play.
RE: Mularkey is just that, and he had nothing to do with Rodgers TD - cooperbh - 12-15-2011 01:47 PM
(12-15-2011 01:36 PM)RnB Wrote: Our offense is great. This year there have been growing pains due to adding JJ, the lockout, bad OL play early, inconsistent WR play, JJ's injuries, and the slow transition of the offense to something better.
Someone, I think Beef, pointed out that this team is collaborative on the offensive side of the ball. That probably holds true for the defensive side as well. This is not some authoritarian regime run from the top down. We have a franchise now that is built for long-term success and functions as a true team should.
Its time for people to stop looking for someone to blame and start celebrating what the Falcons have been doing the past few years and continue to do this season. Blaming something/someone and making ridiculous accusations not based on fact is for fucking chumps. Don't be a chump. Our team identifies problems, corrects them, and has a proven track record under TD and Smitty of doing that very well. They aren't blaming fans and making excuses about why Atlanta fans are so pathetic, so why are fans doing the same thing to our team?
Ill tell you why, because our fans ARE pathetic and the reason why can not be explained/understood; or maybe it is too deep rooted and complicated to begin to address it.
Why are people so interested in who calls what plays and when they call them? Are people looking for evidence that MM is NOT earning his paycheck? Do people honestly believe he has done nothing for our team and sits around with his thumb up his ass? Matt is not going to be our OC and play QB for us. MM is not going to suddenly be relegated to having no control over our offense. I understand wanting to know, for information's sake, but the real reason people want to know is to lay more unnecessary blame. Its disgusting.
That about sums it up.
Logical deduction and complicated problem solving are not things most people feel comfortable doing. They would rather point a finger and say I told you so.
A voice of reason sounds in the echo chamber.
+1
RE: Mularkey is just that, and he had nothing to do with Rodgers TD - Peyton - 12-15-2011 01:53 PM
The offense has struggled at times this year, but I haven't seen many things that I felt were scheme related and the only problem I've seen with Ryan is his accuracy at times. The biggest problems have been WRs dropping balls and making mental mistakes and an OL that has been slow to gel because they usually have one guy playing completely incompetently out there.
RE: Mularkey is just that, and he had nothing to do with Rodgers TD - FullMetalFalcon23 - 12-15-2011 04:16 PM
I don't have a problem with MM so lOng as our scheme continues to evolve to utilise all our players skill sets. As someone said our i offense is a collaborative work. I do at times feel I would rather someone else be OC because of my liking of the west coast scheme but that is about it. I also know and accept that unless Jaquizz or a similar nimble and powerful style back becomes our future back this is not the right scheme to operate as it does not suit turner as a player.
In terms of the play calling I love details like that. I was the signal caller on defence and I was constantly making notes of what the success rate of plays we're and when I called audibles I was equally keen to know whether those plays we're converting or wrong and coating us.
Fact is our offense is good. It has had numerous struggles across different units but we are still in a position to see us in the play offs. That should say something to the fans and the league as we are a unit who has underachieved rather than one just making it and struggling to keep its head above water.
RE: Mularkey is just that, and he had nothing to do with Rodgers TD - Beef - 12-15-2011 07:20 PM
(12-15-2011 12:48 PM)cooperbh Wrote: Keep in mind this is the same group of people who blame Mularkey when receivers drop easy passes.
This is the kind of shit i'm talking about. This statement is not true.
I don't want MM fired.
I don't blame him for receivers dropping passes.
I don't blame him for Matt having stints of inaccuracy.
I don't blame him for our O-line sucking.
I don't blame him for our RB's missing holes or falling down when someone touches their shoe laces with a pinky finger.
Yet, you still keep lumping me and others like me into this "group" that you keep F'ing crying about like a whiny baby.
And Dave Archer owns you up and down. I didn't say Mike Bell knew shit, he simply asked the question on the radio the other day to Archer, and what I explained is what Archer said. And he happens to contradict you quite a bit. And the fact that he's a fucking Falcon employee and correspondent who gets to talk to all the coaches and all the players as much as he wants whenever he wants, you sound like an imbicile for suggesting you know more about how this offense is really run than he does.
And like I said, you fail to use logic with regards to MM. If he was soooo good, then why are we moving away from him being in 100% control and moving much closer to Ryan having total autonomy? If he's soooo good, then why are we playing better when Ryan has more control running the game from the no-huddle where he calls the plays than when MM calls all the plays?
What part of the fact we are playing better with Ryan calling the plays rather than MM do you not fucking understand?
And stop saying the word "agenda" for christ sakes if you're going to sit there and shove one of your own down our throats. Hypocrite.
RE: Mularkey is just that, and he had nothing to do with Rodgers TD - cooperbh - 12-15-2011 08:16 PM
(12-15-2011 07:20 PM)Beef Wrote: This is the kind of shit i'm talking about. This statement is not true.
I don't want MM fired.
I don't blame him for receivers dropping passes.
I don't blame him for Matt having stints of inaccuracy.
I don't blame him for our O-line sucking.
I don't blame him for our RB's missing holes or falling down when someone touches their shoe laces with a pinky finger.
Yet, you still keep lumping me and others like me into this "group" that you keep F'ing crying about like a whiny baby.
And Dave Archer owns you up and down. I didn't say Mike Bell knew shit, he simply asked the question on the radio the other day to Archer, and what I explained is what Archer said. And he happens to contradict you quite a bit. And the fact that he's a fucking Falcon employee and correspondent who gets to talk to all the coaches and all the players as much as he wants whenever he wants, you sound like an imbicile for suggesting you know more about how this offense is really run than he does.
And like I said, you fail to use logic with regards to MM. If he was soooo good, then why are we moving away from him being in 100% control and moving much closer to Ryan having total autonomy? If he's soooo good, then why are we playing better when Ryan has more control running the game from the no-huddle where he calls the plays than when MM calls all the plays?
What part of the fact we are playing better with Ryan calling the plays rather than MM do you not fucking understand?
And stop saying the word "agenda" for christ sakes if you're going to sit there and shove one of your own down our throats. Hypocrite.
What's an "imbicile?" Is it similar to a "bafoon?"
Seriously, if you're gonna keep on with all the personal insults, at least learn how to spell them correctly.
RE: Mularkey is just that, and he had nothing to do with Rodgers TD - Peyton - 12-15-2011 08:25 PM
I agree with Beef about what has happened to the Falcons offense, but I don't agree with the reason it has happened. It's a natural progression for a cerebral QB like Ryan. As a matter of fact, if Ryan wasn't capable of taken on that kind of role, he would be a fairly worthless QB, because he is very average in pretty much every other way.