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RE: Mike Mularkey is an candidate for the Jags Head Coaching job - Knight of God - 12-07-2011 01:57 AM
(12-07-2011 01:42 AM)cooperbh Wrote: I don't believe Rad ever stated or even implied that. I know I don't feel that way. Sure, Mularkey has made his share of bad playcalls this season. No OC hits every single time. But he is not the reason our players are not executing consistently, as some would have us believe.
Anyway, if you are not one of those who screams at the TV any time a running play is called out of a running formation on a favorable running down, then accept my apology for lumping you in with that type.
You know what's funny is that I you and he may be talking about two different things. He is talking about how MM doesn't make adjustments in all honesty, not in game anyways. You are talking about lack of discipline. I usually attribute discipline as being the coach's leadership mark like in Detroit. Coach is whacked out and the players are showing it.
The problem here is that I think the staff are a bunch of guys on different pages.
Take MS and BvG for example. BvG is known as an aggressive defensive guy who swears by the pass rush and dominance every snap. MS ran BBDB in Jax and many there were complaining about it. Then there was the weirdo zone defense he had that imploded on the regular, but would look dominant another week. It was odd. From my own experience with it, very hard to learn.
Then you have MM who has creative control of the offense, but MS likes a strong pass attack with a bullish run. MM just likes to have a row of nasty RB's and shove it down your throat. He himself excelled in those offenses as a TE.
TD drafts and signs what MS asks for...sorta, then it works in theory, but not with what they are doing, but then it seems MS is fine with it.
If that was confusing, it actually is. The team has no identity.
RE: Mike Mularkey is an candidate for the Jags Head Coaching job - JDaveG - 12-07-2011 06:35 AM
(12-07-2011 01:57 AM)Knight of God Wrote: You know what's funny is that I you and he may be talking about two different things. He is talking about how MM doesn't make adjustments in all honesty, not in game anyways. You are talking about lack of discipline. I usually attribute discipline as being the coach's leadership mark like in Detroit. Coach is whacked out and the players are showing it.
The problem here is that I think the staff are a bunch of guys on different pages.
Take MS and BvG for example. BvG is known as an aggressive defensive guy who swears by the pass rush and dominance every snap. MS ran BBDB in Jax and many there were complaining about it. Then there was the weirdo zone defense he had that imploded on the regular, but would look dominant another week. It was odd. From my own experience with it, very hard to learn.
Then you have MM who has creative control of the offense, but MS likes a strong pass attack with a bullish run. MM just likes to have a row of nasty RB's and shove it down your throat. He himself excelled in those offenses as a TE.
TD drafts and signs what MS asks for...sorta, then it works in theory, but not with what they are doing, but then it seems MS is fine with it.
If that was confusing, it actually is. The team has no identity.
This is a lot of what I see, the main exception being that I now question whether it is Smith versus Mularkey wanting the more conservative offense. That play everyone praised where Smith overrode Mularkey and pulled Quizz off the field in that goalline situation?
I thought it was a bad call. I had a feeling something creative was finally coming and Smith threw in the towel on it.
Other than that, I see a lot of the same issues. Our problems aren't all coaching. They may not be predominately coaching (though, as I said earlier, that team on Sunday versus the Texans just absolutely was not prepared to play football, and that is a coaching problem). But there is a coaching issue on this team. I don't know if it's one scapegoat away from being fixed (probably Mularkey, maybe Bratkowski, maybe someone else entirely) or if it's more systemic, but it concerns me.
RE: Mike Mularkey is an candidate for the Jags Head Coaching job - phocis850 - 12-07-2011 09:39 AM
New QB coach is doing great with Matt in the no huddle. But the coach can't get matt to throw more accurately? Its his and M's jobs.
Same goes for the WR coach. Can't blame the offseason this late in the year.
And what was up with the flea flicker? I loved the call but Turner borked the entire play and Ryan got the ball late. He should have thrown it away.
RE: Mike Mularkey is an candidate for the Jags Head Coaching job - Beef - 12-07-2011 10:22 AM
(12-07-2011 01:01 AM)cooperbh Wrote: Hilarious. The same people who were crucifying Mularkey last season for never attempting to stretch the field are now crucifying him for attempting to stretch the field.
It's almost as funny as people blaming Ryan's errant throws to receivers who are running wide open down the field and the inability of those receivers to catch passes that hit them right in the hands on poor route design and predictable formations.
Gotta love agenda posters.
Except that's not what I did or said. I'm not crucifying MM for attempting to stretch the field. And I'm certainly not blaming Ryan or MM for receivers dropping balls that hit them in the hands.
Maybe you should re-read what I said instead of going off on your agenda.
RE: Mike Mularkey is an candidate for the Jags Head Coaching job - JDaveG - 12-07-2011 11:37 AM
(12-07-2011 09:39 AM)phocis850 Wrote: And what was up with the flea flicker? I loved the call but Turner borked the entire play and Ryan got the ball late. He should have thrown it away.
This isn't directed at you, but the above raises an interesting thought with me. We're all just guessing at what the problem is, but my take on the flea flicker is simple -- if it's that poorly executed (Turner threw the pitch back late and Matt let go of the football when the throw wasn't there), is it because our players are incapable of properly executing a play or because it wasn't installed properly or wasn't practiced enough?
I don't know the answer to that, but since we don't use it much, my guess would be the latter, personally. Maybe I'm wrong about that, but I see that as a coaching issue.
RE: Mike Mularkey is an candidate for the Jags Head Coaching job - illmusic - 12-07-2011 12:14 PM
(12-07-2011 01:01 AM)cooperbh Wrote: Hilarious. The same people who were crucifying Mularkey last season for never attempting to stretch the field are now crucifying him for attempting to stretch the field.
It's almost as funny as people blaming Ryan's errant throws to receivers who are running wide open down the field and the inability of those receivers to catch passes that hit them right in the hands on poor route design and predictable formations.
Gotta love agenda posters.
I was actually one of the people who said Ryan didn't have the time to take shots...he's had time, and he has 2 pro bowl caliber receivers ready to make the plays down the field. he's still not getting it done...Mularkey's offense has worked, and can create a SB team...but Ryan isn't the guy for it.
RE: Mike Mularkey is an candidate for the Jags Head Coaching job - Knight of God - 12-07-2011 01:10 PM
(12-07-2011 12:14 PM)illmusic Wrote: I was actually one of the people who said Ryan didn't have the time to take shots...he's had time, and he has 2 pro bowl caliber receivers ready to make the plays down the field. he's still not getting it done...Mularkey's offense has worked, and can create a SB team...but Ryan isn't the guy for it.
Then who would be? The thing here isn't about Ryan not being the guy for it but rather how do you make the most out of what you have? Dilfer wasn't the guy for it but still has a ring. Brad Johnson wasn't the guy for it and has a ring and many others as well.
There are various contributing factors here. No pass rush, so the QB doesn't get the chances. No OL. No secondary: see no pass rush. The run game is one dimensional. WR's dropping balls. Poor tackling. Good plays called at the wrong time. Lack of discipline. QB is treated as a Franchise bomber when he is an exellent to elite game manager. So on and so forth.
This is about just one guy, this about the whole make up of the team not making it happen.
RE: Mike Mularkey is an candidate for the Jags Head Coaching job - Polar Bear Jones - 12-07-2011 02:03 PM
Execution not play calling has been and is the issue for offense. Bringing in new coordinators and new schemes could compound the issue. Like I said when people were screaming for explosion. Consistency and stability is what the team was best at. By attempting to over emphasize explosion we were playing into our opponents hand. Interceptions, turnovers, and penalties are up and 3rd down conversions, TOP, and wins are down. The only thing that will make these things readjust themselves is time. The fans do not want to here that. MM is asking Matt, the OL and the WR to do something he has not in previous seasons it takes time.
RE: Mike Mularkey is an candidate for the Jags Head Coaching job - Anomaly - 12-07-2011 02:13 PM
Quote:Roddy White Feels Falcons Should ‘Scrap’ the Deep Pass
by KNOX BARDEEN on DECEMBER 7, 2011
FLOWERY BRANCH — Atlanta Falcons wide receiver Roddy White has been known to be a jokester in the locker room, and he’s usually a fun guy to have around.
Even after Sunday’s loss in Houston, when White took his moment with the media in front of his locker Wednesday, he wasn’t jovial but he wasn’t downtrodden either.
The first question fired at White was about the first series — the two deep passes that were overthrown by quarterback Matt Ryan.
“We just went out there and didn’t hit the plays we were supposed to hit,” said White. “The outcome is what it is. If we hit the early ones, it’s a different ball game. But, we didn’t hit them and we didn’t get off to the start that we wanted.”
Simple. Succinct. Honest.
Here’s where it gets interesting: The second question was again about the deep ball, but this time a more general question about timing and difficulty.
“I have no idea,” said White. “I don’t even know the answer for it. I don’t know, I think we should just scrap it and just do something else. We should just do some other things. We’ve missed a lot of them this year. I don’t really have an answer — we hit them at practice. We just can’t seem to hit them in a game.”
Wow!
White laughed after he made this statement, but it wasn’t a really convincing laugh. The assembled media gave him a chance to take the statement back, or give us a ‘just kidding’, but that didn’t happen.
White gave more of his feelings.
“We’ll probably do some different things,” said White about what the Falcons should do instead of throw the ball deep. “Maybe a few more timely passes, things like that to get the ball out of Matt’s hands and get it to us to see if we can make some people miss and get explosive plays like that.”
And that was that. Apparently White feels the offense should take the deep pass out of the playbook.
I’m still not convinced White wasn’t speaking tongue-in-cheek on Wednesday. But, he had every chance to give us a wink to let us know he was just playing around. That wink never came. White finished up with the media and left for positional meetings.
That’s life dealing with Roddy White on a daily basis.
http://www.atlantafieldreport.com/171/roddy-white-feels-falcons-should-scrap-the-deep-pass
RE: Mike Mularkey is an candidate for the Jags Head Coaching job - juraitwaluzka - 12-07-2011 02:32 PM
(12-07-2011 02:03 PM)Polar Bear Jones Wrote: Execution not play calling has been and is the issue for offense. Bringing in new coordinators and new schemes could compound the issue. Like I said when people were screaming for explosion. Consistency and stability is what the team was best at. By attempting to over empasize explosion we were playing into our opponents hand. Interceptions, turnovers, and penalties are up and 3rd down conversions, TOP, and wins are down. The only thing that will make these things readjust themselves is time. The fans do not want to here that. MM is asking Matt, the OL and the WR to do something he has not in previous seasons it takes time.
I think there is a lot of truth to this.
As far as new coordinators and schemes compounding the issue I'm not going to worry about that. If it happens we won't be doing it to ourselves. We may end up with a new OC coordiantor (BVG is going nowhere), but not because we get rid of him but because he may land a HC gig. As much as they preach stability with the coaching staff (and with Mike Smith I see someone that is going to be more loyal than hair trigger) I just don't see anyone getting fired, at least not this season.