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RE: I think we are being feed a bunch of bullshit by Falcons management - cooperbh - 03-10-2011 02:09 PM
(03-10-2011 01:41 PM)g-dawg Wrote: that is a decent retort to swifty, cooper......however go back and check Harry Douglas' size and 40 time - you missed that badly.
Just going by the first link that came up when I typed "harry douglas 40 yard dash" in a Google search...
http://www.draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17887
Not saying you're wrong, as I don't claim to know (nor care to know) every player's exact height, weight and 40 time off the top of my head. Anyway, the point was that Douglas was projected as a quick, elusive type WR who was drafted by TD to make explosive plays, which we all know he did in 2008 when he was 100% healthy.
RE: I think we are being feed a bunch of bullshit by Falcons management - g-dawg - 03-10-2011 02:50 PM
(03-10-2011 02:09 PM)cooperbh Wrote: Just going by the first link that came up when I typed "harry douglas 40 yard dash" in a Google search...
http://www.draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17887
Not saying you're wrong, as I don't claim to know (nor care to know) every player's exact height, weight and 40 time off the top of my head. Anyway, the point was that Douglas was projected as a quick, elusive type WR who was drafted by TD to make explosive plays, which we all know he did in 2008 when he was 100% healthy.
yeah, I hope we see the 2008 version of Harry Douglas again and get rid of that 2010 version of HD.
RE: I think we are being feed a bunch of bullshit by Falcons management - cooperbh - 03-10-2011 03:09 PM
(03-10-2011 12:45 PM)Swift Is a Die Hard Wrote: Our secondary isn't good by any means , Dunta Robinson is a overpaid medicore DB... I wouldn't trust this defense vs a top notch QB and that to me is TD doing a poor job revamping this defense and building it to win a chip
From a thread entitled, 'I would not mind one bit if we got Dunta Robinsion he shores up corner and him and Owens were set,' authored by one Swift Hitter:
Posted 04 March 2010 - 10:47 AM
"This would be a smart decision by TD and company to make a move to sure up a position of weakness. Robinsion plays the ball very well folks and he makes plays on them by breaking them up we dont have to worry about a Chris Houston not getting his head turned around"
"if we sign Robinsion im sure he would produce and sure up our secondary right away"
http://life.atlantafalcons.com/topic/3886011-i-would-not-mind-one-bit-if-we-got-dunta-robinsion/page__hl__swift%20hitter__fromsearch__1
In Swift we trust.
RE: I think we are being feed a bunch of bullshit by Falcons management - Swift Is a Die Hard - 03-10-2011 03:22 PM
I was def on board with Dunta Robinson signing we def overpaid him though and he turned out to be a bum but I find it funny that you can criticize me but can't TD and he is the guy getting paid . I thought the Dunta move was nessecary last year it didn't pan out but TD has to do a better job putting better pieces in secondary and sure up nickel but there is no doubt I was on board for Dunta it was a move that needed to be made from my standpoint but it's not right for me to say we overpaid for him . Coop will you go ahead then and say the Dunta move was a bad move then ?
RE: I think we are being feed a bunch of bullshit by Falcons management - ChrisD - 03-10-2011 03:30 PM
Sorry, I feel the need to defend Dunta. .
Alright, sure, Dunta Robinson isn't going to get a lot of interceptions, or anything like that. But you should also realize, he doesn't give up many completions either. To anyone he faces. He's a solid cornerback. He does actually play the ball very well.
Our 4-3 defense uses a crap load of zone coverage. Naturally, it doesn't put cornerbacks in position to get a huge number of picks against rightys (Which are about 90% of QB's in the league). In fact, I think we are lucky to see even the amount that Grimes had.
He may not be worth the huge contract he has, but he's certainly worth most of it. He was rarely targeted, and when he did, he did his job. Bottom line, you won't see Dunta put up a huge amount of numbers, not in this defense as the right cornerback.
RE: I think we are being feed a bunch of bullshit by Falcons management - cooperbh - 03-10-2011 03:37 PM
(03-10-2011 03:22 PM)Swift Is a Die Hard Wrote: I was def on board with Dunta Robinson signing we def overpaid him though and he turned out to be a bum but I find it funny that you can criticize me but can't TD and he is the guy getting paid . I thought the Dunta move was nessecary last year it didn't pan out but TD has to do a better job putting better pieces in secondary and sure up nickel but there is no doubt I was on board for Dunta it was a move that needed to be made from my standpoint but it's not right for me to say we overpaid for him . Coop will you go ahead then and say the Dunta move was a bad move then ?
Why would I do that? Dunta was one of the better players on our defense last season. If not for Robinson consistently locking down his side of the field, Grimes would not have been the most targeted CB in the league, thus preventing him from racking up all those PDs.
Dunta is a tremendous upgrade over Chris Houston or your boy Chris Owens. Not a bad move at all.
RE: I think we are being feed a bunch of bullshit by Falcons management - Knight of God - 03-10-2011 03:38 PM
I like the fact that we're winning, but some moves that we make are big time ???
RE: I think we are being feed a bunch of bullshit by Falcons management - cooperbh - 03-10-2011 03:50 PM
(03-10-2011 03:22 PM)Swift Is a Die Hard Wrote: I find it funny that you can criticize me but can't TD and he is the guy getting paid .
When TD starts drafting the Vernon Gholstons of the world over the Matt Ryans and then follows that up by coming to this message board to boast about how smart he is, then I'll start criticizing him.
RE: I think we are being feed a bunch of bullshit by Falcons management - Swift Is a Die Hard - 03-10-2011 04:01 PM
(03-10-2011 03:50 PM)cooperbh Wrote: When TD starts drafting the Vernon Gholstons of the world over the Matt Ryans and then follows that up by coming to this message board to boast about how smart he is, then I'll start criticizing him.
He possibly made that move when he drafted Jerry instead of Matthews or how he drafted a OLB like Spoon over a potential top tier wr in Dez Bryant
RE: I think we are being feed a bunch of bullshit by Falcons management - ChrisD - 03-10-2011 04:18 PM
Look, I don't know what rock you've been living under, but Dez Bryant is no less injury prone than Peria Jerry. He's had a few flashy punt returns, but that's it. He's been impressive in workouts and things in the past, but it hasn't yet translated to the field like everyone said it should have. Not only that, you do realize Bryant underwent Surgery when the season was over right? He's got a metal plate in his leg now to help support bone. He won't be nearly as flashy anymore. A year off football can make you more prone to injuries and bad habits on the field (poor skills being developed), Spoon was the more sure pick.
Now, with that said, Clay Matthews wouldn't have been the same LB as he is in the Packers defense. I would have LOVED for the Falcons to draft him, but he wouldn't have been the same dominant force that he is. 4-3 linebackers simply do not blitz as much. He would be sitting back in coverage, just like they have tried to do with Spoon. Another reason why Spoon isn't going to be successful on our team. He could be, but probably not. He needs to be blitzing from the sides, then faking out into coverage on certain plays. Pass Rushing LB's just don't work in a 4-3 zone defense that Atlanta runs. It's as simple as that.
And that all goes without mentioning that Spoon was easily the best LB out of the draft last season playing wise.