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G-Dawg Post-Combine Falcons 7rd. Mock - 03/02 - g-dawg - 03-02-2011 10:14 PM
G-Dawg Mock at Atlantafalcons.com
Here goes.....(all heights/weight and 40 times are from combine - fractional inches were rounded up over half inch or down otherwise).
#1-027) Justin Houston, DE-Georgia 6'3", 270lbs (4.68/40)
Simply put, this is the pass rusher we need. At one point I was concerned about his overall weight but he put on 15lbs. for the combine while still maintaining a very fast 40 time. I believe Justin would have an immediate impact on our ability to rush the passer. Even if Falcons are successful landing a Ray Edwards, Mathias Kiwanuka or Charles Johnson in free agency, Abraham is close to the end and we need bookends for the future. As of this writing, both Kiwanuka and CJ have been tendered and could be RFA pending the new CBA.
Justin Houston Highlights
![[Image: 499436830.jpg]](http://images.morris.com/images/athens/mdControlled/cms/2009/10/01/499436830.jpg)
#2-059) Randall Cobb, WR-Kentucky 5'10", 191lbs (4.46/40)
I like Titus Young slightly better but I don't think Young makes it to #59. Cobb is probably the more steady player but Young is more explosive. Both are playmakers who play faster than they time on the stopwatch. Cobb brings big-play ability to the Falcons which is much needed.
Randall Cobb Highlights
![[Image: randall-cobb-touchdown1.jpg]](http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/randall-cobb-touchdown1.jpg)
#3-091) Kendall Hunter, RB-Oklahoma State 5'7":, 199lbs (4.53/40)
Here is another explosive player that is the perfect "lightning" to Michael Turner's "thunder". Kendall has the ability to catch passes out of the backfield, get outside to threaten the edges of the defense and is tough enough to run inside. He could even possibly develop into a #1 RB. If gone, Jordan Todman would be a good substitute.
Kendall Hunter Highlights
![[Image: KendallHunter.jpg]](http://blogs.kansas.com/kstated/files/2010/08/KendallHunter.jpg)
#4-123) Curtis Marsh, CB-Utah State 6'0", 197lbs. (4.46/40)
This guy has the size to match up with bigger wideouts and the speed and hips to run downfield. Also, Marsh is a willing tackler. He fits right in and is a necessary upgrade to the Falcons secondary.
![[Image: 24890649.jpg]](http://www.ksl.com/emedia/slc/2489/248906/24890649.jpg)
#5-155) Julius Thomas, TE-Portland State 6'5", 256lbs. (4.68/40)
This is a "shoot-the-moon" gamble pick I admit. He has played one year of division II football and was a former basketball player - very similiar background as Antonio Gates'(Chargers) path to the NFL. He has the size, leaping ability and potential to be a real weapon in Falcons offense in future years. For 2011, he sits behind Gonzalez and Palmer and learns. This could be a huge BUST pick or it could be a huge BOOM pick. I think, in 5th round, its a good gamble. Look at this leaping ability!!
![[Image: 825-NFL_Combine_Football_9.standalone.pr...ate.74.JPG]](http://media.thestate.com/smedia/2011/02/26/18/825-NFL_Combine_Football_9.standalone.prod_affiliate.74.JPG)
#6-187) Chas Henry, P-Florida
This guy would be a Day#1 starter taking over for the overrated and overpaid Michael Koenan. He has averaged 44.5yds in punting and is good at putting it inside the 20. Also has had no punt blocks - Georgia native even though he played college for the evil Gators.
![[Image: HenryChas08Miami01sonneblick.jpg]](http://www.gatorzone.com/gallery/photos/1080/HenryChas08Miami01sonneblick.jpg)
#7-218) Ricardo Lockette, WR-Fort Valley State 6'2", 211lbs (4.37/40)
This is another heavy developmental project who is a track star. He is long on potential and short on production. With the drafting of Cobb to go with Roddy White, Harry Douglas, Michael Jenkins and Kerry Meier, the Falcons don't need a player for 2011 but need to develop Lockette for future years. He could also be a KR/PR with his speed. At 7th round, risk meets reward.
![[Image: 0fa6017f5979836245baeb66d6a9f47a.jpg]](http://newsite.draftnasty.com/files/cache/0fa6017f5979836245baeb66d6a9f47a.jpg)
#7-210) (f/ NE) Kyle Hix, LT-Texas 6'7", 318lbs (5.46/40)
Just another big guy that has held up at a major college and played a lot of snaps - four year starter at both left and right tackle - quality depth to be developed.
![[Image: 1237964519.jpg]](http://insidetexas.com/media/images/article/1237964519.jpg)
RE: G-Dawg Post-Combine Falcons 7rd. Mock - 03/02 - TheDirtyWord - 03-03-2011 01:22 AM
I am not a big fan of predicting trade downs in mock drafts because rarely does the mocker ever consider the logic for Falcons trading partner.
But I wonder if this wouldn't be the draft to trade down for picks in future drafts? Quite honestly, our options at #27 are solid, but not necessarily differentiated from what you might be able to grab 15-20 slots later. Not only that, but a protracted labor battle could really set this years rookie class back quite a bit and compromise their ability to contribute if there is football in 2011. For a team like the Falcons that actually is in the top third of the league in terms of talent/personnel, a rookie at #27 with no OTA's and potentially little to no training camp could be saddled with too many obstacles to consistently contribute.
Denver might be a good trading partner if we allowed them to move up 20 spots in exchange for their 2012 2nd rounder (we'd also get #47 in 2011). Denver is a team that does have talent issues and might be willing to move up thereby securing 3 of the top 35 selections.
I'd look for other opportunities to trade down to secure future draft picks, even in 2013.
As for your draft, I like Cobb as you know and the idea of securing another RB is also attractive. If we kept the 1st rounder, I could live with Houston, but count me among the minority apparently who feels like Matt Ryan's dearth of weapons is a bigger issue.
RE: G-Dawg Post-Combine Falcons 7rd. Mock - 03/02 - g-dawg - 03-03-2011 01:40 AM
(03-03-2011 01:22 AM)TheDirtyWord Wrote: I am not a big fan of predicting trade downs in mock drafts because rarely does the mocker ever consider the logic for Falcons trading partner.
But I wonder if this wouldn't be the draft to trade down for picks in future drafts? Quite honestly, our options at #27 are solid, but not necessarily differentiated from what you might be able to grab 15-20 slots later. Not only that, but a protracted labor battle could really set this years rookie class back quite a bit and compromise their ability to contribute if there is football in 2011. For a team like the Falcons that actually is in the top third of the league in terms of talent/personnel, a rookie at #27 with no OTA's and potentially little to no training camp could be saddled with too many obstacles to consistently contribute.
Denver might be a good trading partner if we allowed them to move up 20 spots in exchange for their 2012 2nd rounder (we'd also get #47 in 2011). Denver is a team that does have talent issues and might be willing to move up thereby securing 3 of the top 35 selections.
I'd look for other opportunities to trade down to secure future draft picks, even in 2013.
As for your draft, I like Cobb as you know and the idea of securing another RB is also attractive. If we kept the 1st rounder, I could live with Houston, but count me among the minority apparently who feels like Matt Ryan's dearth of weapons is a bigger issue.
TDW,
thanks for your response and analysis as always...what exactly do you propose as to getting Matt more weapons? i thought that is what I was doing with Randall Cobb and Kendall Hunter - maybe TD could grab a Sidney Rice or Steve Breaston in free agency - don't really see how we can do a lot better than Cobb/Hunter though in the draft for getting Matt weapons.......please elaborate your thoughts there - thanks...
RE: G-Dawg Post-Combine Falcons 7rd. Mock - 03/02 - ggp - 03-03-2011 10:36 AM
First of all, I am clearly on board with Justin Houston. We just have to keep our fingers crossed that he will drop into our laps.
Cobb is a fine prospect, but I would prefer to take a mid-to-low level FA WR. We need guys that will be ready to produce now. We already have decent young talent in Douglas and Meier. As a second round choice, I would look at the OLB and CB positions. Drafting a quick OLB may become a necessary step to cover for Nicholas' possible exit.
Hunter is a great choice. I also like Vereen a lot. The advantage to Vereen is that he has extensive experience as a wide out.
Henry might be a good choice but keep in mind that Koenen handles kick offs for us. If we replace Koenen, we may have to replace Bryant. In the 6th round, I'd like to look for a developmental LT. Baker's health is always an issue and I'd like to groom someone behind him. A prospect like Willie Smith might be a good idea. He has very quick feet and is a hard worker. All he needs is some time in the weight room.
In the 7th round, I would add another developmental DE. I have DeQuinn Evans in mind. A JuCo transfer at Kentucky, he looked good. He is under the radar due to injury but he will be 100% by the time camp begins. He developed a quick friendship with Corey Peters and will get a strong rec from the gifted DT.
RE: G-Dawg Post-Combine Falcons 7rd. Mock - 03/02 - g-dawg - 03-03-2011 11:08 AM
(03-03-2011 10:36 AM)ggp Wrote: First of all, I am clearly on board with Justin Houston. We just have to keep our fingers crossed that he will drop into our laps.
Cobb is a fine prospect, but I would prefer to take a mid-to-low level FA WR. We need guys that will be ready to produce now. We already have decent young talent in Douglas and Meier. As a second round choice, I would look at the OLB and CB positions. Drafting a quick OLB may become a necessary step to cover for Nicholas' possible exit.
Hunter is a great choice. I also like Vereen a lot. The advantage to Vereen is that he has extensive experience as a wide out.
Henry might be a good choice but keep in mind that Koenen handles kick offs for us. If we replace Koenen, we may have to replace Bryant. In the 6th round, I'd like to look for a developmental LT. Baker's health is always an issue and I'd like to groom someone behind him. A prospect like Willie Smith might be a good idea. He has very quick feet and is a hard worker. All he needs is some time in the weight room.
In the 7th round, I would add another developmental DE. I have DeQuinn Evans in mind. A JuCo transfer at Kentucky, he looked good. He is under the radar due to injury but he will be 100% by the time camp begins. He developed a quick friendship with Corey Peters and will get a strong rec from the gifted DT.
Ok, interesting ggp - nice post......so, reading between the lines, would your offseason be something like this?:
UFA:
WR-Steve Breaston-Cardinals
#1-027) Justin Houston-DE Georgia
#2-059) Rashard Carmichael-CB Virginia Tech
#3-091) K.J. Wright-OLB Mississippi State
#4-123) Shane Vereen-RB California
#5-155) Julius Thomas-TE Portland State
#6-187) Chas Henry-P Florida
#7-218) Willie Smith-LT East Carolina
#7-219) DeQuinn Evans-DE Kentucky
How is that for the "GGP Post-Combine Mock Draft"?
RE: G-Dawg Post-Combine Falcons 7rd. Mock - 03/02 - monoxide - 03-03-2011 01:05 PM
I've heard some experts say that Lockette won't make it past the 3rd or 4th round on speed and size alone, I can't see him making it to the 7th.
RE: G-Dawg Post-Combine Falcons 7rd. Mock - 03/02 - ggp - 03-03-2011 01:40 PM
(03-03-2011 11:08 AM)g-dawg Wrote: Ok, interesting ggp - nice post......so, reading between the lines, would your offseason be something like this?:
UFA:
WR-Steve Breaston-Cardinals
#1-027) Justin Houston-DE Georgia
#2-059) Rashard Carmichael-CB Virginia Tech
#3-091) K.J. Wright-OLB Mississippi State
#4-123) Shane Vereen-RB California
#5-155) Julius Thomas-TE Portland State
#6-187) Chas Henry-P Florida
#7-218) Willie Smith-LT East Carolina
#7-219) DeQuinn Evans-DE Kentucky
How is that for the "GGP Post-Combine Mock Draft"?
Damn, G-Dawg, you're good! I wouldn't draft a punter, but I like what you've done. I don't know much about Carmichael, but I hear he has the physical talent.
RE: G-Dawg Post-Combine Falcons 7rd. Mock - 03/02 - g-dawg - 03-03-2011 02:52 PM
(03-03-2011 01:05 PM)monoxide Wrote: I've heard some experts say that Lockette won't make it past the 3rd or 4th round on speed and size alone, I can't see him making it to the 7th.
then the experts can have him monoxide - regardless of the great size/speed, this guy Lockette is a MAJOR project. He's basically played two college seasons at a smaller Division II school. For some reason he did not play his junior year.
Lockette has potential but........he has done virtually nothing yet in the game of football. Lockette is not worth more than a 6th-7th rounder
RE: G-Dawg Post-Combine Falcons 7rd. Mock - 03/02 - g-dawg - 03-03-2011 02:55 PM
(03-03-2011 01:40 PM)ggp Wrote: Damn, G-Dawg, you're good! I wouldn't draft a punter, but I like what you've done. I don't know much about Carmichael, but I hear he has the physical talent.
- thanks ggp....Carmichael is a physical talent with decent size and great speed. He only ran a 4.51/40 at the combine so he will need a better time at his pro day to get drafted in 2nd round - but, yeah - I like him.
I'm not going to guess who you would take instead of the punter - you can do that!
RE: G-Dawg Post-Combine Falcons 7rd. Mock - 03/02 - jddurden - 03-03-2011 05:30 PM
I still like Henry in the 6th. He's expected to be the best punter to come out in 5 years or more. If we can pick him up in the 6th I wouldn't mind. You can always pick up "a" punter but not "the" punter. I also feel the need to express my extreme HATRED for Florida once again (actually any chance I get).