(02-08-2011 08:56 AM)cooperbh Wrote:  I figured this place could use a break from all the A-Rod nut-hugging.

(02-08-2011 09:54 AM)Swift Is a Die Hard Wrote:  You nut hug some special..Someone that rises to occasion when (BIG) games matter most ..You drop your jaw when you see the next ALL TIME GREAT player in making ..thats when you nut hug....That is when you are witnessing something special or close to perfection as a PLAYER can be

3rd year starting numbers up the wahhhhhhh zooooooooooo

Helped lead is team to a Super Bowl in one of best QB performances of all time throughout playoffs...

age 28 years old

Super Bowl MVP ..

and the saddest of it all ( DESTROYED THE FALCONS IN GEORGIA DOME )


While Matty Ice aka playoff choker was throwing ints pick 6/ dumb decisions and throwing ducks in end zone..


Aaron Rodgers is special...maybe Packers made a dumb decision sitting him so long but I guess our fan base can use that as a crutch as to why he is better then our QB most cant come to grips...so they will use the BETTER WR CORPS/6 year starting excuse..


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Now before this comes out like I hate Ryan ..Kid has been a winner just like Vick was a winner for this franchise while I saw flaws in Vick game from lack of work ethic to his passing , I see flaws in Ryan game..


Has Ryan been great for this franchise.........YES
Has Ryan been a winner and a great teammate ..............YES
Is Ryan on the level of the great Aaron Rodgers...........not even close
Can Ryan win a super bowl with this offensive scheme.......I have my doubts.


This will be going into year 4 in process and sooner or later our QB is going to have to step up in playoff time..He really has been a disappointment
in games that matter most ...

(02-08-2011 10:00 AM)FullMetalFalcon23 Wrote:  Dude if I don't say it then I'm just gonna get more pissed off with seeing this all over the forum. and I'll end up getting into a bigger rant which I just don't need.

SHUT UP AND STOP TROLLING YOUR OWN BOARD!!!!!

(02-08-2011 10:12 AM)Peyton Wrote:  Guys, just ignore Swift's posts if you don't like what he has to say. I can't allow members to simply ignore the rules because Swift constantly focuses on the negative. He's not breaking the rules. He makes some good points. Just ignore him if you don't like it.

The one issue I do have with Swift is the fact that he feels the need to constantly compare Ryan to Rodgers. It's not really the kind of thing that needs to be revisited over and over again.

Matt Ryan isn't as good as Aaron Rodgers, and he probably never will be. But guess what? Aaron Rodgers is the highest rated passer of all time and the reigning Super Bowl MVP and his stock is still going up. There are very few guys who have ever played who have been as good as he is right now.

But he isn't our QB. Matt Ryan is our QB, for better and for worse, and the better is pretty damn good. I think it this point people just need to accept it, and I'm not saying that people should never criticize Matt Ryan, but keep it to things that are relevant, like whether or not he is putting the work in, not whether or not he can make the throws that Aaron Rodgers can make.

Most guys in this league can't make the throws that Aaron Rodgers can make.

(02-08-2011 10:25 AM)Swift Is a Die Hard Wrote:  thats fair man ..

I love Ryan I truly do but I think our fan base is falling into that Vick (zone) of thinking the QB can do no wrong and all the excuses are starting to come out that what pisses me off. I will say 80% of our fan base actually believes that Matt Ryan is a top 5 QB and is better then Rodgers ..I wish some of our fans come back to a place we like calling being REALISTIC ..

1)OC
2)Lack of wrs
3)oline
4)etc

Now do I think Ryan would be better suited for another scheme.......YES
do i think Ryan needs a play making wr in slot........YES

but with that being said we do have a pro bowl wr, rb, te ..That is plenty to be successful and be successful when it matters most.

If I had to Rate NFL QBS in this league

1)Brady.........
2)Manning......(cant help the fact that he has not played up to his level in post season)
3)Aaron Rodgers
4)Drew Brees
5)Big Ben
6)Phillip Rivers

Those are the upper echelon of QBS ..

7)Eli Manning...he helped lead his team to a super bowl and now putting up numbers but cant put him on that level of QB even though he has a ring over Rivers.

Next Level of QBS

Ryan, Josh Freeman, Flacco, Matt Schaub,Cutler ...........all these QBS are grouped together for me...Flacco/Sanchez have playoff wins and regular season success while Ryan has been a winner and putting up great stats has yet to lead us to a playoff win ..

now if thats not fair I dont know what is

(02-08-2011 10:12 AM)Peyton Wrote:  Guys, just ignore Swift's posts if you don't like what he has to say. I can't allow members to simply ignore the rules because Swift constantly focuses on the negative. He's not breaking the rules. He makes some good points. Just ignore him if you don't like it.

The one issue I do have with Swift is the fact that he feels the need to constantly compare Ryan to Rodgers. It's not really the kind of thing that needs to be revisited over and over again.

Matt Ryan isn't as good as Aaron Rodgers, and he probably never will be. But guess what? Aaron Rodgers is the highest rated passer of all time and the reigning Super Bowl MVP and his stock is still going up. There are very few guys who have ever played who have been as good as he is right now.

But he isn't our QB. Matt Ryan is our QB, for better and for worse, and the better is pretty damn good. I think it this point people just need to accept it, and I'm not saying that people should never criticize Matt Ryan, but keep it to things that are relevant, like whether or not he is putting the work in, not whether or not he can make the throws that Aaron Rodgers can make.

Most guys in this league can't make the throws that Aaron Rodgers can make.