(11-12-2010 03:23 PM)Swift Is a Die Hard Wrote:  Its funny today you hear alot of analysts on TV saying that was Ryan coming out party, he took the next step in the process and thrust himself in that next category of QBs and thats exactly what I been saying , up until last nights game Ryan was a game manager imo that we relied on Turner to run and then Ryan to make some plays when need be so but last nights game in his maturation process was a CLEAR step to me and many other people as putting the team on his back .


Ryan was great yesterday .. He controlled and put that game on his back ..I was one of the very few people who wanted to draft this kid..If you ever want to see go take a look at my SWIFT KICK pro file on AFMB when I will say 92% of you guys wanted Dorse..


Just cause I criticize Ryan in any form doesnt mean anything .. I just call it like I see it and yesterday Ryan took that next step that I needed to see...Next step will be leading us to division title and playoff win , then next step

(11-12-2010 03:57 PM)cooperbh Wrote:  "Matt Ryan has proved he really cant carry a team on his back like some of the other premier QBS .."
-Swift Is a Die Hard, 10/18/10

I always thought that once something was proven, that was the end of it. Only in Swifty World can things be "un-proved."

Sorry, the only way out of this is admitting that you were monumentally wrong in your assessment of Ryan's skills as both a QB and a team leader.

(11-12-2010 03:57 PM)cooperbh Wrote:  "Matt Ryan has proved he really cant carry a team on his back like some of the other premier QBS .."
-Swift Is a Die Hard, 10/18/10

I always thought that once something was proven, that was the end of it. Only in Swifty World can things be "un-proved."

Sorry, the only way out of this is admitting that you were monumentally wrong in your assessment of Ryan's skills as both a QB and a team leader.

(10-17-2010 03:42 PM)Swift Is a Die Hard Wrote:  and if he is not running and making plays and getting the rushing attack going were going nowhere and Ryan is only a game manger that cant carry a team and I was killed. This game is a perfect example of what im talking about..Matt Ryan is nothing but a game manger ..He is not a great QB ..He is not a bad one..You can not put this team on his back he is not that kind of QB and he is also a QB that can bring back a team with a deficit .


Ryan might not be good enough to win us a Super Bowl im becoming convinced cause our defense is not good enough and now im starting to see cracks in our run offense

(11-12-2010 07:23 PM)War Damn Eagle Wrote:  Not sure your agenda here but it's clear you're looking for everyone to back you up on this. It shouldn't be so important to you that people agree with your sentiments. Stick to your guns and forget what everyone else thinks. Eventually, everyone (including you) will know the truth. I've never been a fan of swifty but I have to respect the guy for coming here and giving props to Ryan. When he made that original post, he was probably right. I do think last night was Ryan's "coming out party." That's the first time I've seen him "carry" this team and he did it masterfully. We should be celebrating instead of saying "I told you so." While Tom Brady was at Michigan, he "proved" to be a very average QB. Not so much today.

(11-12-2010 07:55 PM)Swift Is a Die Hard Wrote:  If you want me to say I was wrong so be I have no problem admitting im wrong about anything im a man dude I say some cray shit but if Im wrong im wrong I say it

(11-12-2010 02:29 PM)cooperbh Wrote:  Swifty showed back up and basically said, "Ryan had a great game." That somehow completely absolves him of all the wreckless, unfounded baloney he has been continually spewing about Ryan over the past few months? I don't think so.

As soon as we hear "I was dead wrong about Ryan being nothing more than a game manager and Turner being the leader of this team," then there will no longer be anything to argue about and this embarrasing thread will likely fall off the front page.

Until then, I will enjoy serving Swifty his well-deserved crow.

(11-12-2010 08:16 PM)cooperbh Wrote:  Spin it however you want, but Swift was nowhere close to being right when he said of Ryan's ability to carry this team, "He is not that kind of QB."

Honestly, it shouldn't be so important to you that people disagree with his sentiments and even choose to hold him accountable when it is shown that he has been talking completely out of his ass for months on end.

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Good on you. Admitting you have a problem is the first step to recovery.

(11-13-2010 03:11 AM)Radical Wrote:  Ranting months on end trashing the guy left and right is hardly okay.

He wasn't being critical at all. It was all about he's garbage, nothing more than average at best, will never be a leader, needs Turner to carry him, has a weak arm, is a Chad Pennington clone, this organization is pathetic, etc.

There's a difference between constructive criticism/being critical and then being just downright ridiculous and hateful. You can point out perceived negatives without trumpeting them around and wearing them as some sort of badge of honor if it remotely looks like you may be right.