Ryan is a good QB. He deserved his payday. Good qbs aren't easy to come by.

I brought up Julio just because of his injuries. It seems that he will miss a game or two every season.

We need someone to come in that knows how to physically train these players. The last guy left and his assistant got promoted. Many of these injuries could be prevented with better training.

phocis850 said:

Ryan is a good QB. He deserved his payday. Good qbs aren't easy to come by.

I brought up Julio just because of his injuries. It seems that he will miss a game or two every season.

We need someone to come in that knows how to physically train these players. The last guy left and his assistant got promoted. Many of these injuries could be prevented with better training.

actually, good QBs seem to be rather easy to com by these days. Its the great ones that are few and far between and I'm not sure Ryan fits into that category though as you stated he is a good QB. I've got nothing against Ryan and I think he could lead the team to a SB if the right pieces are put in place around him.

Its not even a 2 year project. We can turn it around in one. We went from 13-3 to 2-7 we can go back to 13-3 no problem. Patch the holes and we are fine. 

Paying 100M to Ryan isn't the mistake. The mistake was getting Gonzalez to come back and neglecting to spend money on the offensive line. No matter how this season would have gone, good or bad, I would have stuck with my original opinion to not waste the money on Tony G. Just wasn't worth it, never was. Not to the development of Matt Ryan or the rest of the offense, terrible move.

Llamar Holmes > Sam Baker

$50,000,000 cheaper too.

You guys saying trade Ryan are so freaking delusional it's pathetic. Matt Ryan is a great quarterback, he's having a bad string of games and he's too caught up in the fact that Gonzo is such a good player that instead of going through his progressions he's trying to force things. He's a playmaker and a winner. You don't trade a franchise QB. Who would we have throw the ball? Davis? Renders? Are you tucking kidding me? Lay off the peyote a bit please.

Now, you can look at firing Smith being just as delusional, but I think that's more realistic. Smith has failed to gameplay for a lot of teams in the past with our team being healthy. Him not being able to compensate and make something with very little is the issue. Guys like Payton, McCarthy, Tomlin, and the Harbaughs have all had to overcome big injuries in the past and have made something of near nothing. Mike Smith hasn't shown he can do that. Blame coordinators all you want but at the end of the day, it's on the head coach to decide what type of gameplan to run. I love Mike Smith, but he needs to step up as a coach, team depth aside.

Do we fire him this year? Probably not. But if he can't get us where we need to be with the tools he has, contending for a Super Bowl, then I believe his exit is sure fire after next season.

Let me also mention, as food for though, the same things we were complaining about before we switched coordinators we are complaining about now.

(Running up the gut with no avail, calling short passes no where near first down run run pass, soft zone defense)

That's not the name of Koetter and Nolan's game plans, that should tell you that something is off with Smith. I don't know, just some thoughts.

You can blame depth maybe, but lack of ability, what's out record the past five years again? You don't get that with lack of top end talent..

Are we on pace to finish with the lowest rushing per game average in franchise history at this point? I know we are dead LAST in the NFL in rushing.

ChrisD said:

You can blame depth maybe, but lack of ability, what's out record the past five years again? You don't get that with lack of top end talent..

Record is debatable. A win is a win, but we could have easily been .500 each year.