Anyone else relieved?

JDaveG

phocis850 said:
I don't see how we can blame smitty and td here. Free agents for any line help practically didn't exist.

Yes, for years we've needed line help, but we've needed help all over the place. We've started from the dust of the Petrino year and we've been relevant every year until this year.

I see DK gone and we bring in someone that doesn't come from Jacksonville. Why we kept siphoning from that subpar organization is beyond me.

There were guards available in the draft. We doubled up on corners. Probably Nolan's fault, but still, that's what we did. And there were defensive linemen available too, and we didn't go after them until the 4th, when we picked up Goodman.

We've had chances to build the lines. We've chosen to spend our picks and our dollars elsewhere. Now those chickens are coming home to roost. We have Jackson and Julio, but no one to block for the former or protect the QB so we can go after the latter. We have secondary upgrades, but no one to get after the QB, so they have to cover for 5 seconds or more per play. We did it to ourselves.

Possibly Konz and Holmes work out. I'm not hating on those two after 1 season. But we should have been filling those holes much earlier, and not with late round scrubs.

RnB

No, I am not relieved that we are having a bad season so far. I still have hope we can turn things around. Until we are mathematically eliminated, I won't stop believing in the Falcons to rattle off a huge win streak and scoot right in to the playoffs.

I am ashamed of how most of our fans are acting this season. I have always hated that the media bags on Atlanta fans but this season proves that most of them are fair-weather scumbags.

phocis850

You can be all mathematical all you want @RnB, but the truth is, we will not be making the playoffs.

Aftermath

Guido was all on that "mathematically eliminated" BS last year too. Knowing that we won't be making the playoffs I'd much prefer to lose out and get a top 3 draft pick over having the birds win a few meaningless games and knocking us into the teens on draft day. Besides, I think this team and the brain trust in particular need a serious wake up call. This one step away or one missing piece BS they have been running the last few years has completely fucked us in terms of building for the future. 7-9 or 6-10 may allow Smith and TD to continue to pretend that the Falcons are just a piece or two away from once again being contenders. Can't ignore 2-14, that's "we seriously need to rethink what the fuck we are doing" territory.

juraitwaluzka

Sure, it's mathematically possible that we could go on a run and make the playoffs, and that's what I'm pulling for, but just based on offensive line alone I don't see how that is anywhere close to realistic, especially against good teams.

I knew it wouldn't take long for the pitchforks and torches to come out.

RnB

You fuckers wanting us to lose out for draft picks, saying you won't go to games, want us to rebuild the team, have free Sundays now; you are disgusting. YOU are the reason Atlanta is called a terrible sports town. We lose a few games and 75% of the fan base goes into pussy mode, taps out on the entire season, really?

Wow...

ViperXX79

phocis850 said:

Jesus said:
Jackson and Gonzo are gone for sure. Both retire and take their contracts with them. HD has shown he can be an awesome option. We need a big player on D. Maybe that person is on the roster, maybe not. We need a running back who isn't afraid to run into the hole. We also need a philosophy change. We need to be more aggressive. I'll bet either Nolan or Koetter gets another job this offseason. We won't fire them. It will be like 2011 one will disappear.

What hole?

That's what I was wondering...

ViperXX79

RnB said:
You fuckers wanting us to lose out for draft picks, saying you won't go to games, want us to rebuild the team, have free Sundays now; you are disgusting. YOU are the reason Atlanta is called a terrible sports town. We lose a few games and 75% of the fan base goes into pussy mode, taps out on the entire season, really?

Wow...

There's nothing wrong with wanting to get better draft position. It's the right thing to do when you have no real shot at the Super Bowl. Having management that tries to salvage bad seasons into respectable ones by staying around .500 is the number one killer of professional sports franchises. In every sport good draft position is how you win, although baseball isn't as useful as the NFL and NBA drafts. If you're one of those fans that thinks going 7-9 but playing hard is all that matters then you will fit right in with not ever winning any championships.

Just look at the Atlanta Hawks. They had a great chance of getting great draft position in a loaded 2014 draft but decided to field a "playoff" team that will be bounced in the first round. As a fan how am I supposed to be ok with that? Great we're going to make another terrible playoff run and miss out on one of the best draft pools since Lebron's. Yay we get to field another mediocre team that may or may not make the playoffs the following year. Awesome... When you're ok with staying mediocre your team is going to be mediocre. That 15-22 range in the draft is the worst place to be and constantly sitting in that range means you'll constantly be mediocre.

This team DOES need to be rebuilt. The trenches are flat out terrible and there's no denying it. I'm disgusted by fans like you that think making the playoffs is some kind of great success. Here's a wake up call, it sucks. Championships are the name of the game, not just making the playoffs and feeling good about it. Atlanta fans are tired of their sports franchises being committed to just being good enough. We want to be great and have a reason to spend our hard earned money. I won't pay for mediocrity. No one should when it comes to anything really. If I feel like the team has put out the best possible product and lose then so be it. At least they tried. This team has ignored both lines and refused to fix. That's what is disgusting.

juraitwaluzka

What a bunch of whiny ass butthurt. Being a Falcons fan isn't easy, some people just don't have the stomach for it. The last five years has spoiled some people and brought out their inner toddler. But just to entertain the ridiculous, just how is that supposed to work? Are you just wishing for losses despite the players best efforts or are you seriously suggesting that coaches and players "strategically" lose on purpose, because if so, when you rebuild you better replace everyone because a team full of quitters has no chance of winning anything ever.

mdrake34

RnB said:
You fuckers wanting us to lose out for draft picks, saying you won't go to games, want us to rebuild the team, have free Sundays now; you are disgusting. YOU are the reason Atlanta is called a terrible sports town. We lose a few games and 75% of the fan base goes into pussy mode, taps out on the entire season, really?

Wow...

We didn't just lose a few games. This season has had the fork stuck in it by the fat lady. The insane amount of injuries exposed Dimitroff's method of team building as fundamentally flawed. We've got to do a partial rebuild, starting with the lines.

phocis850

As far as I know, none of us fans are quitting on the team. We are tried and true red and black. Our hopes were completely shattered on Sunday of even having a chance to make it to the SB, let alone the playoffs. We have a very good team, when healthy, but we do have some weaknesses.

- We have zero depth. This is due to how we've been drafting and signing free agents

- Our lines suck. We've drafted a ton of linemen, but how often do we see a rookie or 2 year goto injured reserve? You draft for a need and they break a leg. Shit happens, but our team seems to have weak legs.

- Our running game would be on par with everyone elses IF they had a hole to run through.

- Our passing game, with basically TG and a 4th look receiver really isn't doing that bad. It shows that Matt is rising above the mediocre line.

- Our play calling is lackluster. Maybe the coaches are going vanilla or calling plays that the opposing team knows. How do you allow 150 yards on the ground by watching the Cardinals run left on EVERY PLAY and not make a change?

There's more to this list, but I need coffee.

And no, I'm not quitting on the team. I'll keep wearing my Falcons apparel everywhere I go.

mdrake34

I'm not quitting on this team either and will still watch and root for them every Sunday. I can't go to games because it's expensive as shit, not because I'm protesting.

But I will continue to be critical of this team until changes are made. Even if the coaches and brain trust stay, there has to be a change in philosophy. We're no longer 10 yards shy of the Super Bowl.

phocis850

By the end of this season we will be 10 games shy of the Super Bowl.

mdrake34

:((

Aftermath

RnB said:
You fuckers wanting us to lose out for draft picks, saying you won't go to games, want us to rebuild the team, have free Sundays now; you are disgusting. YOU are the reason Atlanta is called a terrible sports town. We lose a few games and 75% of the fan base goes into pussy mode, taps out on the entire season, really?

Wow...

Atlanta is called a terrible sports town because our professional sports teams fucking suck. Can't expect to develop a fanbase like other cities when your teams are known for only one thing, shitting the bed

RnB

Aftermath said:

RnB said:
You fuckers wanting us to lose out for draft picks, saying you won't go to games, want us to rebuild the team, have free Sundays now; you are disgusting. YOU are the reason Atlanta is called a terrible sports town. We lose a few games and 75% of the fan base goes into pussy mode, taps out on the entire season, really?

Wow...

Atlanta is called a terrible sports town because our professional sports teams fucking suck. Can't expect to develop a fanbase like other cities when your teams are known for only one thing, shitting the bed

So what you are saying is you are a shitty fan that gives up on their team halfway through a season? The only thing that fucking sucks in this thread is you. Hand in your fan card and go find some other team, or state for that matter, to be a fan of; hell just fall off the Earth. Not even the fucking Saints deserve fans like you.

Aftermath

I see someone has been face planting the retard button again.

mdrake34

Guys - whoah. Whoah whoah whoah whoah whoah.

Where's my batman glass?

Drathdon

Not giving up so long as there is a chance. Giving up leads to players who can't find ways to win games like the Seattle game last year at the end, or the Chicago game a few years back.

I don't want quitters on this team. Frankly, so long as Matt Ryan is under center, I can't see us ever quitting on a year, let alone this one where there is still so much ball to be played.

phocis850

Having one bad year like this just may be what this organization needs to realize that we aren't doing something right.

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