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xstealth · 09-21-2010, 12:36 AM

us trading shaub

DaMeatTrough · 09-21-2010, 12:38 AM

(09-21-2010 12:36 AM)TonyGraziani Wrote: I still say that was a great trade. If we walked outta that draft with Pat Willis and Sidney Rice (like I wanted)you would say the same. Let's not use revisionist history.

Thrilled we got Lofton for him (essentially). But yeah, nobody knew how that would work out and we did get GREAT value. In the end it was an excellent deal for both teams.

TonyGraziani · 09-21-2010, 12:39 AM

(09-21-2010 12:34 AM)NZFalcon Wrote: something like 5 pass no completions 2 INT and his first pass being a pick6

I know of the facepalm worthy stats of Mr. Fav-Ree, I meant Steve with the Sucs. Sorry I wasn't clear.

The Falcon Jedi · (This post was last modified: 09-21-2010 01:14 AM by The Falcon Jedi.)

Neither were mistakes. Both of those QBs sucked at the time.

Favre, in all of his holy greatness, has only won 1 SB. If he wasnt so much of an INT machine he could have won a lot more. He had enough talent around him in GB all those year

Steve Young was the definition of a system QB. He turned into a great WCO QB. Not to mention he had Jerry Rice and TO to throw to, under Bill Walsh's designed offense.

Joe Montana - probably the weakest armed, most athletically-challenged QB ever. He thrived because of the same reasons that Young thrived. He was trained in the right system under the mastermind Bill Walsh. Montana couldnt throw the ball 35 yards to save his life, but he was smart and he learned the system he was in. Plus he had Jerry Rice.
Montana perfected the slant pass. Which always killed us.

Jen · 09-21-2010, 01:16 AM

I've gotta go with Schaubby as well.

Favre never would have survived here. He was meant for GB. And I'm not sure that Steve Young would have been given a chance to thrive in Tampa.

Honestly when I think of QB mistakes I think of the one signing that didn't happen. Miami could have had Drew Brees but chose Daunte Culpepper instead. I think that probably stands as the biggest mistake any team has ever made...

**papachaz** · 09-21-2010, 02:08 AM

(09-21-2010 12:36 AM)xstealth Wrote: us trading shaub

^^this^^ LOL

study the history of THAT time for the Falcons. Glanville wasn't worried about what Farve might become, he was a sideshow freak for all JG cared. He called him Louisiana. He would get reporters over and say, Hey louisana, show these guys how far you can throw the ball, and then Farve would grin and throw it to the upper deck.

Farve didn't want to be here. he would have never become 3 time MVP here, at least not with JG coaching. he would have become a drunk or even as it were he was hooked on those pain killers already from the surgeries. I'm not a fan of what he's done with the 'retired not retired' crap the last few years, but he definitely got some things straightened out in his life with the support system that was given for to him in Green Bay.

IMHO, if we could have supported him and given him what he needed to succeed here, then us trading him was the bigger mistake. but since the owners we had, and the front office we had would not, it wasn't a mistake. because we would not have gotten the same QB that he turned out to be.

All the more reason to be so happy with Mr Blank for WANTING to put a winner here. For bringing a FO that is willing to be patient and build us into a team that is "relevant" for years to come. I'm glad to be a Falcons fan.

Just my 2 cents....from an old timer Shy

bF™ · 09-21-2010, 04:55 AM

I don't think schaub was a mistake because if we kept schaub we probably win 6 or 7 games in 07 and keep petrino and mckay and dhall, etc.

I like the direction this team is headed 1,000x more than that one. Think of all the bonehead moves petrino made in his short time here. And mckay was hit or miss as well.

Ryan has a better win %, he's been to the postseason, he's a beast at home, and an all around solid qb. And dig this....he's ONLY PLAYED 32 games.

Schaub will always be one of my favorites but i'm happy with what we got here. I think the brees situation with miami and San Diego is the worst in NFL history.

TonyGraziani · 09-21-2010, 05:34 AM

I agree that Miami took a huge L in picking Culpepper over Brees, but using the same logic of guys being placed in the right situation, who is to say that Drew Brees becomes who he is if he took his talents to south beach? Culpepper had a Peyton/Tom-esque season a year or two before, and Drew wasn't even a probowler yet iirc. I think the moral of the story when it comes to QBs is right place, right time.

bF™ · (This post was last modified: 09-21-2010 07:17 AM by bF™.)

(09-21-2010 05:34 AM)TonyGraziani Wrote: I agree that Miami took a huge L in picking Culpepper over Brees, but using the same logic of guys being placed in the right situation, who is to say that Drew Brees becomes who he is if he took his talents to south beach? Culpepper had a Peyton/Tom-esque season a year or two before, and Drew wasn't even a probowler yet iirc. I think the moral of the story when it comes to QBs is right place, right time.

Drew was a Pro bowler in San Diego. He probably wouldn't have put up 4,000 yd seasons out the ying yang like he is now but he likely wouldve been very solid in Mia

***Peyton*** · 09-21-2010, 07:24 AM

Favre would have never got a ring in Atlanta, and the Young probably wouldn't have gotten a ring in Tampa. A lot of times, greatness in QB comes after being paired up with the right offensive mind. We've never had that guy in Atlanta. I'm still not sure we do, but hopefully Matt Ryan can overcome it.