Team Report says TD Mortgaged away part of the Falcons' future

[Swift Is a Die Hard]

(05-06-2011 11:49 AM)ATLBound Wrote:  Now you're just adding random players. You and I know jimmy smith wouldn't have been picked and neither Greg little. Both have had off field problems.

Also td said in an interview that at #27 TE and LB would have been the options. Which means he didn't rate any other de high beyind can jordan and also any other wr, I.e. baldwin.

I could have lived with the OT Gabe Carimi ( sured up the oline)

traded away next years 1st and 4th for 39th pick TE Kyle Rudolph

then our 2nd round pick Demarco Murray RB

then move up front of 3rd round pick and taken Hankerson


OT Gabe Carimi
TE Kyle Rudolph
RB Demarco Murray
WR Hankerson


talk about a fucking potent draft


IF TD had that kind of draft EVERYONE WOULD BE GOING NUTS HOW GREAT WE DRAFTED .............FACT

[papachaz]

again i'll put this out, mortgage the future has no validity. we have to know the following, and we don't
1. what slot would we be (both picks)
2 who would TD take there
3 how does THAT guy work out? and bad or good, would THAT GUY have had the same impact for us as he did the team he's with?

so IMO we can't say we mortgaged the future without knowing those things, and we won't know those things realistcally until four years down the road. at that point, we can take JJ's career vs the guys we 'might have had' and the comparisons are accurate, and we'll know if we gave too much.

i do kind of agree somewhat with your rationalizations of what would equal success/failure, but qualify D for me, 'down the road' = how many years?
and for the sake of argument, you really have to stop listing players that were gone before #27, they couldn't have been drafted by us, without another trade of course, and not knowing what a trade up to get that person would have been, it's not something we can even speculate on. neither would the guys we KNOW don't pass 'the filter' and yeah, i know you hate the filter as well, LOL

[ATLBound]

(05-06-2011 12:00 PM)Swift Is a Die Hard Wrote:  I could have lived with the OT Gabe Carimi ( sured up the oline)

traded away next years 1st and 4th for 39th pick TE Kyle Rudolph

then our 2nd round pick Demarco Murray RB

then move up front of 3rd round pick and taken Hankerson


OT Gabe Carimi
TE Kyle Rudolph
RB Demarco Murray
WR Hankerson


talk about a fucking potent draft


IF TD had that kind of draft EVERYONE WOULD BE GOING NUTS HOW GREAT WE DRAFTED .............FACT

Not too big on hankerson but the other 3 I see as potentially good prospects. But what if 2 of those guys are busts. What if 1? What if in the second round of next years draft there is a better Te prospect than rudolph?

The point is, like papachaz has noted in this thread and I actually had a thread started about this as well that nobody paid attention too...lol, we don't know yet.

I made a thread advising some of us to have no reaction. We always forget about that option. Everybody tends to either be positive or negative. All this players you just drafted could suck and jones could become better than jerry...lol. the point is we just dont know.

[papachaz]

(05-06-2011 12:16 PM)ATLBound Wrote:  Not too big on hankerson but the other 3 I see as potentially good prospects. But what if 2 of those guys are busts. What if 1? What if in the second round of next years draft there is a better Te prospect than rudolph?

The point is, like papachaz has noted in this thread and I actually had a thread started about this as well that nobody paid attention too...lol, we don't know yet.

I made a thread advising some of us to have no reaction. We always forget about that option. Everybody tends to either be positive or negative. All this players you just drafted could suck and jones could become better than jerry...lol. the point is we just dont know.

sorry, want me to move my post to your thread?

[Radical]

(05-06-2011 12:16 PM)ATLBound Wrote:  we just dont know.

That escapes some people.

[Beef]

Did this thread get edited by a mod or something? I could have sworn I replied somewhere in this thread but my post is gone. And I didn't say anything that would have broken the rules and warranted it getting deleted. Maybe I'm going crazy but I remember typing some stuff out on this topic.

[Templar]

Jesus Christ...pull the stick out, put some antibiotic cream on and then try to relax and realize that there isn't a god damn thing you can do about it (other than bitch and moan).

[ggp]

Julio Jones is a rare talent and and even more rare man. He is, as described by Saban, an unaffected man. He is not a boy in a man's body. He behaves like a mature man.

This is in stark contrast to a recent first rounder (Dez Bryant), who was given a whole lot of love on many Atlanta boards last year. Personally, I would prefer to give up two first rounders, a second rounder and two fourth rounders for an exceptional talent that I know will act and perform like a professional.

Keep your picks. I support TD's decision and will be happy to live with the consequences.

[papachaz]

(05-06-2011 02:15 PM)Beef Wrote:  Did this thread get edited by a mod or something? I could have sworn I replied somewhere in this thread but my post is gone. And I didn't say anything that would have broken the rules and warranted it getting deleted. Maybe I'm going crazy but I remember typing some stuff out on this topic.

i checked, nope, nothing by you has been edited/moved/deleted, you sure it was this thread? LMAO there's only 8 or 10 or so on this topic....maybe it's deja vu all over again

[Beef]

(05-06-2011 06:54 PM)papachaz Wrote:  i checked, nope, nothing by you has been edited/moved/deleted, you sure it was this thread? LMAO there's only 8 or 10 or so on this topic....maybe it's deja vu all over again

Very odd, I very much remember typing out why this whole article is filled with complete speculation and I specifically remember quoting the line from Julio and bolding it where he says he just wants to help draw double-teams off Roddy. Because that's the greatest remark in the entire article.

Julio's maturity level and demeanor are freaking incredible.