TD interview on 790 the fan

[ChrisD]

(01-18-2011 04:43 PM)Peyton Wrote:  Gotta disagree with you there. I thought it was a terrible throw, and a really easy pick after Jenkins slipped.

I don't think it was a bad throw at all. Bad decision making? Yes, the actual throw was on a great path. If Jenkins stayed up right, he may have brought it down with his height. Then no one would be sitting here saying "Oh what a horrible throw!"

[Swift Is a Die Hard]

(01-18-2011 04:46 PM)ChrisD Wrote:  I don't think it was a bad throw at all. Bad decision making? Yes, the actual throw was on a great path. If Jenkins stayed up right, he may have brought it down with his height. Then no one would be sitting here saying "Oh what a horrible throw!"

no the decision he made before the half to get closer into FG range was a BAD DECISION ..the throw in end zone was bad throw to me ..see the difference. There is no need to throw that 10 yard out rolling against body to fit in spot ..and he paid for that

[ChrisD]

(01-18-2011 04:45 PM)Peyton Wrote:  If he would have thrown it earlier, flatter, and further, it definitely would have been a TD, unless Jenkins dropped it.

Williams was cooked on that play.

Again the key being flatter.

I think my problem with Swift is that he expects spot on dead accuracy ever single time. When in reality maybe he should go outside, hang a tire, and throw at it from about 35 - 50 yards out. And tell us all what a good and bad throw is then. Because, even though some people say "It's just a tire", it's really not. With the corners in the league now days, thats about all the room you get to throw the ball.

[ChrisD]

(01-18-2011 04:48 PM)Swift Is a Die Hard Wrote:  no the decision he made before the half to get closer into FG range was a BAD DECISION ..the throw in end zone was bad throw to me ..see the difference. There is no need to throw that 10 yard out rolling against body to fit in spot ..and he paid for that

A bad decision is waiting extra time instead of throwing when Jenkins was Wide open. That's a BAD decision, and it effected everything on that play.

What's killing Matt Ryan isn't his arm strength, his accuracy, or any of his physical attributes. (Except maybe the fact that he throws off his back foot, actually, probably.)
It's his knowledge for the game, knowing that the safety would move if he waited on it, and that is what made him make the bad decision. From the time the ball was snapped he made a bad decision to wait with the football. I agree that he made a bad throw, but only due to a bad decision. If Jenkins hadn't fallen, the throw was absolutely fine.

You guys want him to throw out in front of Jenkins, but he was trying to hit Jenkins in the hands. That's all.

[Radical]

(01-18-2011 04:38 PM)Swift Is a Die Hard Wrote:  1) would I bitch about TD drafting injury prone players yes ..He drafted Weatherspoon and he got injured as well so what is the point .Id rather have a play making wr who injured his ankle but made game changing plays then a OLB who basically made none and was also injured

You can't bitch about TD drafting players who get injured and then get upset when we didn't draft your player(who you grossly over rated in calling him the next Randy Moss) who turned around and got injured. Can't have it both ways.

There's no damn way any QB could possibly have completed that pass at the time that ball was thrown. It was a late throw. The most a "live arm" could have done would have to make it so the CB didn't have to jump as high for it, maybe bouncing off the CBs hands do to how fast it would have been going.

[Radical]

(01-18-2011 04:45 PM)Peyton Wrote:  If he would have thrown it earlier, flatter, and further, it definitely would have been a TD, unless Jenkins dropped it.

Williams was cooked on that play.

Throwing it earlier would have been all that was needed. Anything after that is just eye candy.

[Swift Is a Die Hard]

(01-18-2011 04:48 PM)ChrisD Wrote:  Again the key being flatter.

I think my problem with Swift is that he expects spot on dead accuracy ever single time. When in reality maybe he should go outside, hang a tire, and throw at it from about 35 - 50 yards out. And tell us all what a good and bad throw is then. Because, even though some people say "It's just a tire", it's really not. With the corners in the league now days, thats about all the room you get to throw the ball.

I played baseball my whole life. Had a scholarship to play college ball..I played 3rd base most of my high school days . I made a play one day and hurt my shoulder not bad but I felt I loss the strength in my arm that i used to have a nice cannon at hot spot I basically was moved to 2nd base after that ..

Ill put it in baseball terms.. See how Jeff Francouer/Vlad plays RF and has the low dart throw to get a runner trying to stretch a single or get home from 2nd ..Ball is on straight line cause its the fastest way ..

Most plays overcompensate when they dont have that strong of a arm . So they LOB ball more up like Johnny Damon ..He throws lobs to get it to home cause if he tried to throw a low trajectory throw it would take 13 skips before it gets to point b


get it

[phocis850]

(01-18-2011 04:52 PM)Radical Wrote:  Throwing it earlier would have been all that was needed. Anything after that is just eye candy.

Now what about the other 20 points?

Everyone is focused on one pass. One bad (possibly) throw out of 500?

[Radical]

(01-18-2011 04:56 PM)Swift Is a Die Hard Wrote:  I played baseball my whole life. Had a scholarship to play college ball..I played 3rd base most of my high school days . I made a play one day and hurt my shoulder not bad but I felt I loss the strength in my arm that i used to have a nice cannon at hot spot I basically was moved to 2nd base after that ..

Ill put it in baseball terms.. See how Jeff Francouer/Vlad plays RF and has the low dart throw to get a runner trying to stretch a single or get home from 2nd ..Ball is on straight line cause its the fastest way ..

Most plays overcompensate when they dont have that strong of a arm . So they LOB ball more up like Johnny Damon ..He throws lobs to get it to home cause if he tried to throw a low trajectory throw it would take 13 skips before it gets to point b

get it

Except if he can throw the ball 60 yards... it is ridiculous to believe that he doesn't have the ability to throw half that distance or less on a relatively flat trajectory.

[Peyton]

(01-18-2011 04:52 PM)Radical Wrote:  Throwing it earlier would have been all that was needed. Anything after that is just eye candy.

Well...yeah....maybe.

I mean an element of the play was that he was trying to move Peprah. If he hadn't taken so long doing that, he might have needed to make a flatter throw to make sure Peprah didn't get there before the ball.