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Dale4Saul2Red0 · 10-18-2010, 02:26 PM

(10-18-2010 02:00 PM)phocis850 Wrote: Swift is not attacking anyone. He is stating his opinion... it seems to line up with what I think about our offense.
You are just having a problem because he is Swift. I don't care who he is. He has every right to his opinion. I don't see why everyone is on attack mode to be against him. If you would just listen to some of the things he is actually saying then maybe you would remove the "troll" tag that you have on him and just have a decent highly opinionated conversation.

BTW, our entire team let us down. Ryan IS a part of the team, he is getting the blame as well. Ryan has been off the last 2 games. Something just isn't right.

You will see, his act with get worse. Or if we win he will go away. Definition of a troll. Only shows up and his post count goes up quickly after a loss. I hope we keep winning then I don't have to read his trash.

Why would I waste my time on Swift when he has proven to be a troll on the other boards? His track record is the reason he gets no respect. You are telling me to ignore his proven track record of trolling? Why? Makes 0 sense.

Swift Is a Die Hard · 10-18-2010, 02:29 PM

trolling I was on AFMB for like 10 years buddy ..ask anyone ..ask people I was one of the few people that called Vick out for his poor work ethic I was called a racist and not just by you other people the opposite way .. You are the poster that has the pom poms in his hand and cant discuss football without being a cheerleader ..SIMPLE AS THAT

I will report though if you keep name calling Im here to talk football..I have posted when we were winning to as well..so you lose there bud

***phocis850*** · 10-18-2010, 04:00 PM

(10-18-2010 02:26 PM)Dale4Saul2Red0 Wrote: You will see, his act with get worse. Or if we win he will go away. Definition of a troll. Only shows up and his post count goes up quickly after a loss. I hope we keep winning then I don't have to read his trash.

Why would I waste my time on Swift when he has proven to be a troll on the other boards? His track record is the reason he gets no respect. You are telling me to ignore his proven track record of trolling? Why? Makes 0 sense.

Sorry, I don't consider it trolling to state an opinion. That's what he is doing and backing it up with the facts that he has. You are misconceived. Heck, I guess I'm a troll for thinking the same as Swift about this issue.

I don't care if he was labeled a troll over there or not. AFT is a different territory. If he were posting tons of threads about the same thing that would be different, but he isn't. He is posting in the same threads in an effort to reply to the criticism or his view point.

I want you to know. I don't give a rats ass about who is right. We all have different opinions. Just look at the topic Peyton started it's now admin vs admin Wink

We don't need to think alike but we still need to treat everyone with respect. Drop what you know about everyone at the OFMB and just relax and converse.

And Swift, I'm not your friend. lol.

~~zigg zagg~~ · (This post was last modified: 10-18-2010 04:14 PM by zigg zagg.)

a troll on afmb is a generic term given to anyone who doesnt think this is 16-0 team with pro bowlers at every position, whether your opinion is grounded in fact or hate for our team. over here, we can not be happy with our teams performance and be free to speak about it without being bashed. thanks to the ones who make this site possible. it doesnt really bother me being called names over the internet or to get negative rep points especially when i know my opinions are formed in a consistent and intellectually honest manner but its nice to have some place to go where those people arent the heroes.

(10-18-2010 11:55 AM)Duff_Man Wrote: Jackson has 507 yards a 4.0 yard average and 2 TDs. Turner has 466 and a 4.3 average and a TD.

And the Rams aren't even the worst team in their division, much less the league.

Not a great example.

steven jackson has been consistently good on a st louis team that has been consistently worst in the league even if not this year.

its a great example.

**Radical** · (This post was last modified: 10-18-2010 04:16 PM by Radical.)

(10-18-2010 04:11 PM)zigg zagg Wrote: a troll on afmb is a generic term given to anyone who doesnt think this is 16-0 team with pro bowlers at every position

That is a load of bullshit.

You come to the table with well thought out analysis and present your opinion and post in a constructive manner, you'll get a positive reception.

You come to the table with retarded statements like, "this is Turner's team" and proceed to throw around a bunch of nonsense, you'll suffer the backlash.

It isn't a crazy concept.

(10-18-2010 04:11 PM)zigg zagg Wrote: steven jackson has been consistently good on a st louis team that has been consistently worst in the league even if not this year.

its a great example.

Just because a team is horrible doesn't say anything about individual players and the play of specific groups of players. The Raiders have generally had a good pass defense over these past few years, but they've still be a HORRIBLE team for years now.

~~zigg zagg~~ · 10-18-2010, 04:20 PM

(10-18-2010 04:15 PM)Radical Wrote: That is a load of bullshit.

You come to the table with well thought out analysis and present your opinion and post in a constructive manner, you'll get a positive reception.

You come to the table with retarded statements like, "this is Turner's team" and proceed to throw around a bunch of nonsense, you'll suffer the backlash.

It isn't a crazy concept.

Just because a team is horrible doesn't say anything about individual players and the play of specific groups of players. The Raiders have generally had a good pass defense over these past few years, but they've still be a HORRIBLE team for years now.

if i were to state that ryan isnt living up to his hype i am called a troll there. plain and simple. this after i have supported him since day one. i get lumped in with the same guys who still think shockley should be starting. if you dont see it, then you might be a part of the problem as well.

***Peyton*** · 10-18-2010, 04:37 PM

(10-18-2010 04:20 PM)zigg zagg Wrote: if i were to state that ryan isnt living up to his hype i am called a troll there. plain and simple. this after i have supported him since day one. i get lumped in with the same guys who still think shockley should be starting. if you dont see it, then you might be a part of the problem as well.

I think it's actually safe to say that here. Ryan is having some problems. It seems like the pass protection woes are in his head now. Last week, he was bailing on plays when the protection was fine, and yesterday he missed some fairly easy completions because he was too focused on the rush.

He's got to find away to get those worries out of his head and keep his focus downfield.

Swift Is a Die Hard · 10-18-2010, 05:24 PM

(10-18-2010 04:15 PM)Radical Wrote: That is a load of bullshit.

You come to the table with well thought out analysis and present your opinion and post in a constructive manner, you'll get a positive reception.

You come to the table with retarded statements like, "this is Turner's team" and proceed to throw around a bunch of nonsense, you'll suffer the backlash.

What a bunch of nonsense is that we are 12-2 when Turner runs over 100 yards ..

that is a fact ...Turner carried the load in 08' and Ryan managed the situations and made clutch plays ..Its was a 1A and a 1B scenario .. They feed off each other.

Also here are some stats as well
Matt Ryan Passer rating in games which Turner ran for 100+ yards

10' vs NO ...108
10' vs CLE 89.4
09' vs Car ......122
09' vs NO .....46
09' vs Car .....59.4
08' vs DET ...137
08' vs KC .....120
08' vs Oakland ....138
08' vs Car ........94
08' vs SD............130
08's vs Tampa ........57
08' vs ST ...........49.9

Now can you show me the games where Turner was held in check Ill say 60 < less yards and Ryan had a Passer Rating over 85+ and we won ?

How many wins do you think there were

cooperbh · 11-12-2010, 03:48 AM

(10-17-2010 03:42 PM)Swift Is a Die Hard Wrote: Remember when I said this is Michael Turner team and if he is not running and making plays and getting the rushing attack going were going nowhere and Ryan is only a game manger that cant carry a team and I was killed... Matt Ryan is nothing but a game manger ..He is not a great QB ..He is not a bad one..You can not put this team on his back he is not that kind of QB and he is also not a QB that can bring back a team with a deficit .

Please, do go on.

FireDawg85 · (This post was last modified: 11-12-2010 03:54 AM by FireDawg85.)

(11-12-2010 03:48 AM)cooperbh Wrote: Please, do go on.

Lol. I guess there was three birds involved in the game today. The Falcons and Ravens on the field, and the crow these clowns will have to eat.