PFF: The All “After Three Years We Can Judge Them” Team

[Swift Is a Die Hard]

(03-23-2011 09:21 AM)ch46745 Wrote:  Wrong!!!!!

Because I can recall Flacco's recent playoff game against the Steelers win he threw an interception late in the third quarter that allowed the Steelers to tie the game in which the Ravens ended up losing. I'm not criticizing TD and Smitty but I blame them a little, it is not their faults that the Falcons defense collapsed badly in those two playoff games(especially the one against the Packers), The blame goes on the players not tackling and covering effectively and not rapping up Rogers correctly for sacks.

Thats fine im just wondering do you also blame Ryan for throwing 2 ints and 1 that went back for a TD ..After that point game was over we were down 14 and Packers get ball back at half ..GAME SET MATCH .. I never said Flacco or Sanchez was better then Ryan cause they have had some playoff success I dont buy that .I think they are in same pairing though you cant say Ryan is better then Flacco or Sanchez ..You did point out that example about Flacco your correct but for most part Sanchez and Flacco have manged there playoff games better then Ryan has .


If I was to make a list of best NFL QBS
1)Brady
2)Manning

3)Brees
4)Rodgers
5)Big Ben
6)Rivers

7)Eli Manning
8)Vick..............(if he played like he did last year )

Then the next group

Schaub, Ryan, Freeman, Flacco, Palmer (who i think is just bout done though)

[markdzul]

say what you want to say, leading his team to two playoff games in his first three years, one division championship, probowl. I think the kid is off to the right start. We could have any number of jackasses playing quaterback for us. who do you want. take your pick.

Donovan McNabb

Jimmy Clausen

Max Hall

Alex Smith

Taverius Jackson

Rhett Bomar

Tim Tebow

Jay Cutler

Brett Farve

ECT.

[Swift Is a Die Hard]

dont think its fair to list McNabb with those QBS while McNabb is past his prime he is a potential HOF QB and we hope Ryan turns out as good as McNabb was in his prime

[DawnOfThemBirds]

(03-23-2011 10:28 AM)Swift Is a Die Hard Wrote:  dont think its fair to list McNabb with those QBS while McNabb is past his prime he is a potential HOF QB and we hope Ryan turns out as good as McNabb was in his prime

Go and look at McNabb's career stats, they don't scream potential HOF because he was a pretty good QB, not a great one. Most of his career stats except for 2 or 3 seasons were average at best.

[Swift Is a Die Hard]

(03-23-2011 10:48 AM)ch46745 Wrote:  Go and look at McNabb's career stats, they don't scream potential HOF because he was a pretty good QB, not a great one.

had this argument with a friend of mine ...go look at Jim Kelly stats ..

[papachaz]

(03-22-2011 05:57 PM)JOEinPHX Wrote:  Every time I wonder if moving up to get Sam Baker was a smart move, I look at who was still available at numbers 34, 48 and 103 in the 2008 draft. Which is not to say that the Falcons would have picked up some combination of Jordy Nelson, John Carlson, Desean Jackson, Ray Rice, Eddie Royal, Jamaal Charles or a host of others. But all those guys were available in that range.

but none of those guy can play left tackle


either....LMAO

[Swift Is a Die Hard]

Jim Kelly


160 games
35,467 passing yards
237 tds
175 ints


McNabb

161 games
36,250 passing yards
230 tds
115 ints


Kelly played with HOF RB & WR ...what has Mcnabb played with

[DawnOfThemBirds]

(03-23-2011 10:53 AM)Swift Is a Die Hard Wrote:  Jim Kelly


160 games
35,467 passing yards
237 tds
175 ints


McNabb

161 games
36,250 passing yards
230 tds
115 ints


Kelly played with HOF RB & WR ...what has Mcnabb played with

Jim Kelly also went to 4 straight Super Bowls and that is the main reason why he is in the HOF. Also, Matt Ryan's first 3 years are better then McNabb's stats wise so based on what are you saying if Matt Ryan continues the way that he is playing and win a few playoff games that he will become a potential HOF? Because that is exactly how you are stating McNabb's case.

[Swift Is a Die Hard]

what Mcnabb went to 1 super bowl and 5 NFC CHAMPIONSHIP games..neither 1 has ever won a ring..Also the fact that Kelly had a HOF rb in Thomas and a HOF in Reed while McNabb outside 1 year never played with a HOF type player. I think McNabb is a HOF player and while I think his career is on downside I think he has 1 more run in him ..Maybe he lands in Arizona or Minny and just make one last push

[DawnOfThemBirds]

(03-23-2011 11:01 AM)Swift Is a Die Hard Wrote:  what Mcnabb went to 1 super bowl and 5 NFC CHAMPIONSHIP games..neither 1 has ever won a ring..Also the fact that Kelly had a HOF rb in Thomas and a HOF in Reed while McNabb outside 1 year never played with a HOF type player. I think McNabb is a HOF player and while I think his career is on downside I think he has 1 more run in him ..Maybe he lands in Arizona or Minny and just make one last push

He played with T.O.( a future HOF) during the 2004 season in which he had his best season ever. You are also forgetting that he had Brian Westbrook for all those years who was just as much of a contributor as McNabb and he also had a good solid defense for most of those years which allowed him to reach those 5 NFC Championship games and that 1 Super Bowl game.