Off Topic: BBC News - Barrack Obama: All US troops to leave Iraq in 2011

[Radical]

Barack Obama: All US troops to leave Iraq in 2011
From BBC News

Quote:All US troops will be pulled out of Iraq by the end of the year, President Barack Obama has announced.

He ordered a complete withdrawal from the country, nearly nine years after the invasion under President George W Bush.

About 39,000 US troops remain in Iraq, down from a peak of 165,000 in 2008.

The US and Iraq were in "full agreement" on how to move forward, Mr Obama said, adding: "The US leaves Iraq with our heads held high."

"That is how America's military efforts in Iraq will end."

According to the Department of Defense, there have been 4,408 American military deaths in Iraq since March 2003.

Mr Obama spoke at the White House following a video conference with Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri Maliki.

He pledged assistance and "a strong and enduring partnership" with Iraqi government.

The US declared the end of its combat mission in Iraq in 2010. The deadline for complete troop withdrawal by end of 2011 was set during former President George W Bush's term in office.

However, the issue of a full pullout had been the subject of an ongoing debate.

Iraqi leaders had wanted 5,000 US troops to remain in a training capacity. But those trainers would not have received immunity from prosecution under Iraqi law.

The Pentagon refused to accept that condition, with Defence Secretary Leon Panetta insisting that "we protect and provide the appropriate immunity for our soldiers".

The decision to pull out all US troops suggests no deal could be reached, despite Iraq's desire for continued access to US military expertise, correspondents say.

Earlier this month, Iraqi government spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh said: "If we do not have agreement on the immunity, there will be no agreement on the number."

Many Iraqis are sensitive about the issue, given the number of civilian shootings involving US troops since the US-led invasion. Private contractors have already lost their immunity.

Mr Obama said the withdrawal comes amid changes in American military priorities, including a troop drawdown in Afghanistan, and new political realities in the Middle East and Africa.

"The tide of war is receding," he said.

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[Paprika Neck]

glad hes keeping up with the bush timetable. obama is worse than jimmy carter

[papachaz]

so we'll be out by the end of 2011, they'll be at war with iran by the end of 2012. that idiot in charge in iran is probably creaming his jeans waiting for us to finally be out of his way

[Paulitik]

(10-22-2011 12:43 AM)Paprika Neck Wrote:  glad hes keeping up with the bush timetable. obama is worse than jimmy carter

That's the most moronic thing I've ever heard. Obama has been hundreds of times more effective foreign policy wise than any republican ever has. He has been much more effective and aggressive against Al Qaeda, and his behind the scenes approach to Libya was far more effective in taking down Qaddafi than Bush's hamfisted approach to getting Hussein.

I have plenty of criticisms with Obama, but the Republicans can't say shit about him when it comes to him on foreign policy. It's time to leave Iraq, and that's what we are doing. If we stay, it's tantamount to being seen as another unnecessary invasion.


If George Bush accomplished close to what Obama has in the last 6 months since taking out OBL, the Republicans would be crying for his bust to be on Mt. Rushmore.

[Paprika Neck]

hes following g dubs time line. And unlike dubs is causing america to fight illegal wars. We wouldve killed the libyan tyrant long ago when ronald raegan was president but ofcourse liberals and demoncraps blocked military action.

[Paulitik]

(10-22-2011 01:23 PM)Paprika Neck Wrote:  hes following g dubs time line. And unlike dubs is causing america to fight illegal wars. We wouldve killed the libyan tyrant long ago when ronald raegan was president but ofcourse liberals and demoncraps blocked military action.

Lay off the crackpipe. When have liberals ever blocked miltiary action? Grenada was real impressive by the way. If Obama was simply following Bush's timeline, why are all the Republican candidates criticizing him for pulling the troops out?

Nice revisionism. The fact is, we should have never been in Iraq in the first place. We should have treated the war on terror like organized crime, not some military crusade. Obama is cleaning up your moronic party's messes, and you obviously have sour grapes, because he's tougher than your chickenhawk candyasses ever could be.

[Paprika Neck]

ummm everyone was in favor for invading iraq... libya is just another oil/money grab.

[phocis850]

(10-22-2011 12:29 PM)Paulitik Wrote:  That's the most moronic thing I've ever heard. Obama has been hundreds of times more effective foreign policy wise than any republican ever has. He has been much more effective and aggressive against Al Qaeda, and his behind the scenes approach to Libya was far more effective in taking down Qaddafi than Bush's hamfisted approach to getting Hussein.

I have plenty of criticisms with Obama, but the Republicans can't say shit about him when it comes to him on foreign policy. It's time to leave Iraq, and that's what we are doing. If we stay, it's tantamount to being seen as another unnecessary invasion.


If George Bush accomplished close to what Obama has in the last 6 months since taking out OBL, the Republicans would be crying for his bust to be on Mt. Rushmore.

AHHHH MY EYES!!!!!!

[Jesus]

The war's over. Stop bringing politics in here makes us all look like fools when we comment on it.

[ryandauwalker]

As hard as this might be for some of you to believe, the troops leaving Iraq has absolutely nothing to do with Barack Obama.

The reason that we are pulling out at this specific time is because we would have to renew our agreement with Iraq, and any soldiers we would place in the country would be subject to the legal government of Iraq, not the U.S.

No president in their right mind would put our troops in that type of jeopardy, regardless of political persuasion.