Poll: Should the Saints Bounty thread be unlocked?

**Radical** · 10-24-2012, 04:30 AM

I'll consider it at a later date. Here's the deal though.

By the very foudnation of this board, the number one rule is that you do NOT personally attack other posters. I could write a small novel repeating that point over and over again, but I'm not going to. Simply put, don't personally attack people. You can say you think their posts are moronic, stupid, an insult to your intelligence, etc., but calling them a dumbass and whatnot is unacceptable by board rules. On this board, as a moderator, I cannot and will not waver on that.

Now, here's the deal, you do NOT have to read or respond to anything anyone says on any message board. You don't have to react and start typing in a fury your thoughts on them, their post, and everything inbetween. So, if someone bothers you that much, you have the ignore button, use it. I've used it, and if you are serious about not wanting to engage someone, then you're not going to be bothered about it. Now, all bounty talk up to this point, as far as I have seen, has been confined to that thread and that thread only. You do not have to read it, and it has not stopped any discussion for other topics at this point.

I personally am going to step away from this for a day or so before I decide whether or not to re-open the thread. Beef will be allowed to return Sunday, before the game. After that I will be removing this thread and things will be handled by staff from that point on. This is needless drama, and that's all it is.

Radical

juraitwaluzka · (This post was last modified: 10-24-2012 07:53 AM by juraitwaluzka.)

I would love for there to be a rival fan poster such as McMvp, an Eagles fan. Guido is about as far from that as you can get. Sure I can ignore his posts but I have said it before this place is lots better when he is not around. I'm not leaving but it doesn't surprise me that he would be the cause of others leaving.

Templar · (This post was last modified: 10-24-2012 08:28 AM by Templar.)

(10-24-2012 07:37 AM)juraitwaluzka Wrote: I would love for there to be a rival fan poster such as McMvp, an Eagles fan. Guido is about as far from that as you can get. Sure I can ignore his posts but I have said it before this place is lots better when he is not around. I'm not leaving but it doesn't surprise me that he would be the cause of others leaving.

Absolutely 100 agree with this statement. I am of the opinion that he comes here with the soul intention of causing strife and tension on this board. He's a troll, and all his "I'm not a troll, I just want to talk football" doesn't change the fact. The board is a much better place without his presence.

JDaveG · 10-24-2012, 09:55 AM

(10-24-2012 08:24 AM)Templar Wrote: Absolutely 100 agree with this statement. I am of the opinion that he comes here with the soul intention of causing strife and tension on this board. He's a troll, and all his "I'm not a troll, I just want to talk football" doesn't change the fact. The board is a much better place without his presence.

I disagree with that in the main.

I think most of his time in the Saints Bounty thread amounts functionally to trolling. Unfortunately, I think he actually believes what he is saying, which means he isn't trying to troll, but the effect is the same. I also think it's troll-ish, for example, to suggest that the Saints are going to go 12-4 after the way they've started, but that's pretty minor.

For the most part, however, Guido is not a problem. I would prefer a bit heavier handed moderation of the troll-ish comments, but I think banning him would be a mistake. And in the end, I'm not a mod, so what I would prefer in terms of moderation is really just subjective and it doesn't really matter. I think the mods here do a good job, and while I don't want this place to become like AFMB where trolls run rampant, I don't think that's happening, and I sure don't want it to become like rival boards where if you say anything negative about the home team you get a permaban.

AsylumGuido · 10-24-2012, 09:59 AM

(10-23-2012 09:32 PM)Drathdon Wrote: Radical,
Please reconsider the closing of the Aints thread. Roger just stepped aside, the Tags took over the appeal, and the NFLPA just gave him 24 hours to explain himself, or a motion will be filed before that bitch judge who thinks it's her job to make Vilma happy no matter what. There is PLENTY to talk about, all affecting our MAIN division rival, who just moved into 2nd place in the division, whether we like it or not. Their abysmal start is clearly a direct result of this important topic, and I'd like to see the failures continue. If not that thread, many more will appear in its place, and keeping it all to one thread was a wise decision.

Please open it back up. I wanted to post an article in it about Tags.

I appreciate your consideration of relenting on your previous decision. Thanks!

Can you PM me the article on Tagliabue? I have read several, but all are basically the same take.

AsylumGuido · 10-24-2012, 10:03 AM

(10-24-2012 09:55 AM)JDaveG Wrote: I disagree with that in the main.

I think most of his time in the Saints Bounty thread amounts functionally to trolling. Unfortunately, I think he actually believes what he is saying, which means he isn't trying to troll, but the effect is the same. I also think it's troll-ish, for example, to suggest that the Saints are going to go 12-4 after the way they've started, but that's pretty minor.

For the most part, however, Guido is not a problem. I would prefer a bit heavier handed moderation of the troll-ish comments, but I think banning him would be a mistake. And in the end, I'm not a mod, so what I would prefer in terms of moderation is really just subjective and it doesn't really matter. I think the mods here do a good job, and while I don't want this place to become like AFMB where trolls run rampant, I don't think that's happening, and I sure don't want it to become like rival boards where if you say anything negative about the home team you get a permaban.

Thanks, Dave. And, yes, I actually do believe what I am saying as do a growing number of people across the league. And, while 12-4 might be extremely difficult, this team ran off nine straight to finish last season and 13 straight two years before that, so it isn't outside of the realm of possibility.

mdrake34 · 10-24-2012, 10:47 AM

I like the idea of a central thread for that topic. It's not terribly hard to avoid flipping out.

***Peyton*** · 10-24-2012, 10:55 AM

(10-23-2012 10:28 PM)Drathdon Wrote: Considering now they are attacking Tags, this is far from reaching it's most hilarious point!

Not to make this into the "Saints Bounty Thread Part 2", but I do think it's fair to point out that Paul Tagliabue is employed by the law firm that represents the NFL in all of the bounty litigation.

If that's not a conflict of interest, then there is no such thing as a conflict of interest.

***Peyton*** · 10-24-2012, 10:57 AM

I'd vote for the thread to be unlocked, but I'd also be in favor of us moderators redoubling our efforts to insure that people respect each other on this site. And be extra strict in that particular thread.

mdrake34 · 10-24-2012, 11:05 AM

(10-24-2012 10:55 AM)Peyton Wrote: Not to make this into the "Saints Bounty Thread Part 2", but I do think it's fair to point out that Paul Tagliabue is employed by the law firm that represents the NFL in all of the bounty litigation.

If that's not a conflict of interest, then there is no such thing as a conflict of interest.

It absolutely is a conflict of interest. It can be waived, but it's a conflict.