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NFL reported TD was scouting several O-Linemans during the Senoir Bowl
01-26-2011, 09:54 PM (This post was last modified: 01-26-2011 09:54 PM by evo.)
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NFL reported TD was scouting several O-Linemans during the Senoir Bowl
Quote:MOBILE, Ala. -- As I pointed out Tuesday, the North team is blessed with several good offensive tackle prospects. In looking at the South squad, I see several more promising offensive linemen. Teams in need of help up front are going to be happy they came to the Senior Bowl.

I spent some time with Falcons general manager Thomas Dimitroff and Dolphins general manager Jeff Ireland discussing the offensive line situation at the Senior Bowl practices and it was clear that they liked what they saw. Dimitroff is here looking for versatile linemen to give Atlanta some depth. Ireland is pleased with his current group of linemen, but admitted that the talent level here is so intriguing that it's hard to take his eye off the guys in the trenches.

The most acclaimed South tackle is Mississippi State's Derek Sherrod, but what made the South practices so interesting was the quality of players not rated as highly. That depth will lead some front office executives and coaches to believe they can land a good lineman in the second or third round.

Here's a look at the South linemen having a solid week.

Derek Sherrod, Mississippi State -- Sherrod is a left tackle candidate with excellent athletic ability. He makes pass blocking look easy and his double-kick to set for a wide speed rusher is effortless. Sometimes it appears like he is being lazy, but he's really just so gifted and smooth. His run blocking is not at the same level, but this won't be a big concern for several teams, especially those looking to throw 40-plus times a game. He was advertised by some as the top tackle in the draft, but the competition from the North squad leaves me thinking he's going to wind up down a few spots in the final evaluations. He's still a likely first-round pick, though.

Marcus Gilbert, Florida -- Gilbert is a guy that came to Mobile viewed as a third- or early fourth-round pick by some but his work on Tuesday had some line coaches telling me he's better than that and I agree. Coming here was a very positive decision for Gilbert. The first thing that jumped out came when he lined up at right tackle in the "team" period of practice. A toss run to his side was called and he exploded out of his stance, went out to a wide defensive end, and hooked him before he even had a chance to make a play. His balance and initial quickness showed up many times during the drills. He told me he feels comfortable at either tackle spot and that is the versatility Dimitroff craves. Gilbert moves well enough for offensive line coaches to use him in the trap and pull game, but like many young players, he does get caught in a waist-bend position at times. He clearly has the feet to recover, however.


James Carpenter, Alabama -- Carpenter had the same kind of practice Gilbert had on Tuesday. Expectations coming in were that of a fourth-round-type player, but his execution and athletic ability were better than anticipated. Guys like Carpenter and Gilbert need to put back-to-back days together to keep pushing their stock up. Carpenter has an athletic body and the feet to play on the left side. He also shows effort and results as a run blocker. One GM I was standing with called him "impressive" with a smile on his face, which told me Carpenter's moving up. While he does not appear to be able to pull and trap like Gilbert, Carpenter plays with enough effort to make it in the NFL.

DeMarcus Love, Arkansas -- Love is a guy I watched more than most during the college season. He came here hoping to move from a second-round to a first-round grade. He lined up at left and right tackle as well as at guard. He is accustomed to doing so after playing multiple positions in college because Arkansas used strongside/weakside principles with the offensive line. With that, Love can get in any stance and play. He struggled a bit with a defensive end that used a tug technique that got him off balance and looked better at guard than tackle. I couldn't help but think he would be a perfect fit for the Steelers and their aging, banged-up line.

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Rodney Hudson, Florida State -- Hudson came here with a big reputation and an undersized body. As my radio partner Tim Ryan, who played for the Chicago Bears, said "Rodney reminds me of Guy McIntyre," who played for years for the 49ers. He compensates for his lack of bulk (6-foot-2, 282 pounds) with leverage, technique and effort. He might not be the first guard taken and is probably a second-round talent at this point. If he can play center the way he plays guard, his stock goes up. Not many inside prospects have his quickness to recover when getting beat.

Kristofer O'Dowd, USC -- O'Dowd is an interesting candidate at a weak position here and probably the draft (center). If your favorite NFL team needs a center, it might have to find a stop-gap and wait until next year. After watching all the center candidates in Mobile, I don't think we will see one picked before the fourth round. O'Dowd is a strong, experienced center, but is not as athletic as former Trojan and current Panther Ryan Kalil. He can function on a pro field, though. He competes against nose tackles with power, but struggles a bit with speed. He got caught waist-bending a few times during the drills.

So i guess we wont see all of our up front guys coming back next. I would be sad to see one of them leave, but i guess there's always a business side to it.

What do u think Falcons fan?

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01-26-2011, 09:59 PM
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Nothing wrong with seeing who's out there. Football starts up front on the O and D lines.....but if we take an O-Lineman in the 1st round I will not be happy.

BTW, my boy James Carpenter is pretty damn good Wink

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01-26-2011, 10:00 PM
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Just depth. I would figure one of the guys we drafted last year will get a spot, and someone will walk (probably Dahl).

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01-26-2011, 10:06 PM
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TD must realize that Tyson Clabo will be a hot FA. I can easily see Jerry Jones out-bidding everyone for his services. For this reason, TD must be prepared. While Garrett is said to be a RT candidate, maybe this report is a sign that the FO is not entirely convinced.

I am beginning to like the idea of drafting an OT in the second round. Gilbert, Cannon, Carpenter, Love and Barksdale are legitimate prospects for us to pick up in the second round. All three can start, as rookies, at RT and have the physical skills to eventually move to the LT spot, if the need arises.
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01-26-2011, 10:24 PM
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i've been watching the senior bowl coverage. i'm no talent scout at all, but i do know that the guys there have bragged tremendously on carpenter and hudson. and Mayok was almost drooling waiting to see Sherrod match up in the one on one drills with the DE's.

i could see the potential of taking a left tackle and moving Baker over to the right side, it's something that's been discussed several times on the boards.

Chew on THAT, Petunia!
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01-26-2011, 11:16 PM (This post was last modified: 01-26-2011 11:20 PM by Beef.)
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All I know is that in TC, Garrett Reynolds was by far the biggest guy on the entire field. He's got guerilla arms & giant hands too. Clabo was easily the second biggest. When they were both standing next to each other with their helmets on, it still looked like Reynolds was at least 2-3 inches taller than Clabo, so I'm not so sure the 6'7" stat that's listed for him is accurate, I think he might be 6'8" even. On top of that, it looked like Reynolds' shoulders were about 6 inches wider than everybody else. The guy is just an absolute beast. I'm really surprised he hasn't played much yet. Although he is only 23 yrs old.

Mike Johnson & Jose Valdez are both also absolutely huge guys. Hawley is also quite a bit bigger than McClure, except for his gut, which is a lot thinner. Hell, ALL of these guys have less body fat & more muscle than our currently line.

I really like all these kids to be honest. An O-line of Reynolds, Johnson, Hawley, Valdez, & Clabo sounds better than the current one. That line there is 6 inches taller, 13 pounds heavier but with a lot less fat & a ton more muscle, & 22 years younger than our current line. Baker can become a backup or if Valdez still isn't up to par, he could play RG or swap with Johnson & play LG. The other thing is, this line is easily twice as fast as the current line, which obviously would enable a viable screen game & pulling out to edge block for a sweeping scat-back (wink wink).

If you haven't seen the video of Hawley running receiver routes, that kid is a freaking athlete. He easily runs a 5.0, maybe even slightly under that. And he's a weightroom workout warrior too. He's definitely the center of the future for us.

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01-26-2011, 11:54 PM
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(01-26-2011 10:06 PM)ggp Wrote:  TD must realize that Tyson Clabo will be a hot FA. I can easily see Jerry Jones out-bidding everyone for his services. For this reason, TD must be prepared. While Garrett is said to be a RT candidate, maybe this report is a sign that the FO is not entirely convinced.

You can bank on Clabo getting the franchise tag, provided a new CBA doesn't come along in a hurry and eliminate such things, which strikes me as possible but unlikely. Tyson won't be happy, but it will still be a nice pay day.
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01-27-2011, 12:27 AM
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(01-26-2011 11:54 PM)JOEinPHX Wrote:  You can bank on Clabo getting the franchise tag, provided a new CBA doesn't come along in a hurry and eliminate such things, which strikes me as possible but unlikely. Tyson won't be happy, but it will still be a nice pay day.

We need a left tackle who can block a speed rusher. Baker is a devastating run blocker. Call me crazy, which I've come to expect, but move Baker to right guard and draft that left tackle. That would mean we have to retain Clabo.

And I am crazy,...we'll let Clabo go and keep Baker at LT.

Perhaps Dimitroff made the same mistake Reeves did. Drafting DTs, a safety, LBs and acquiring a big time CB while ignoring the O-line,...just a thought.

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01-27-2011, 06:54 AM
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(01-26-2011 11:16 PM)Beef Wrote:  All I know is that in TC, Garrett Reynolds was by far the biggest guy on the entire field. He's got guerilla arms & giant hands too. Clabo was easily the second biggest. When they were both standing next to each other with their helmets on, it still looked like Reynolds was at least 2-3 inches taller than Clabo, so I'm not so sure the 6'7" stat that's listed for him is accurate, I think he might be 6'8" even. On top of that, it looked like Reynolds' shoulders were about 6 inches wider than everybody else. The guy is just an absolute beast. I'm really surprised he hasn't played much yet. Although he is only 23 yrs old.

Mike Johnson & Jose Valdez are both also absolutely huge guys. Hawley is also quite a bit bigger than McClure, except for his gut, which is a lot thinner. Hell, ALL of these guys have less body fat & more muscle than our currently line.

I really like all these kids to be honest. An O-line of Reynolds, Johnson, Hawley, Valdez, & Clabo sounds better than the current one. That line there is 6 inches taller, 13 pounds heavier but with a lot less fat & a ton more muscle, & 22 years younger than our current line. Baker can become a backup or if Valdez still isn't up to par, he could play RG or swap with Johnson & play LG. The other thing is, this line is easily twice as fast as the current line, which obviously would enable a viable screen game & pulling out to edge block for a sweeping scat-back (wink wink).

If you haven't seen the video of Hawley running receiver routes, that kid is a freaking athlete. He easily runs a 5.0, maybe even slightly under that. And he's a weightroom workout warrior too. He's definitely the center of the future for us.

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01-27-2011, 08:03 AM
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(01-26-2011 11:54 PM)JOEinPHX Wrote:  You can bank on Clabo getting the franchise tag, provided a new CBA doesn't come along in a hurry and eliminate such things, which strikes me as possible but unlikely. Tyson won't be happy, but it will still be a nice pay day.

Why are you so sure that we will franchise Clabo? Don't get me wrong, we all agree that he has worked hard and made himself into a great RT. The question is whether TD will pony up the money. It seems that he has been preparing for a gradual overhaul of the OL. The rumors of us looking at OT's is certainly suspicious.
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