(06-13-2012 01:44 PM)ATLBound Wrote: I really think your reading comprehension isnoff sometimes because I answer questions that I know you are going to ask before you ask them because you run the same game in eveey thread.
The point of this discussion is not to look at the Saints vs. Whomever and say win/loss. The whole point is if your team DID NOT have all these things looming over them then I would mostly agree with you. I could see them winning the division and getting to 11/12 wins, not saying it would happen but I can understand the logic.
But in this case its not just Saints vs. Whomever...It's Saints vs. Team, Media, Bountygate, Payton's absence, suspensions, etc. So to go down a list and say Saints win or lose will not do the issues looming over your heads justice. I can't take into account which games the issues will affect. I just have the belief that it will affect a few games. To put it easily I see on a normal basis the Saints as a 11-12 win team. I think with all the factors involved it will negatively impact 8 games. Some of those games the Saints will pull out and win and some they won't. If they pull out half of those games, then we are looking at a 8-9 win team.
Now because of your post we have you on record as saying that Payton's absence WILL NOT affect the offensive side of the ball in anyway, which means his absence will not have an affectbon your team at all because Spags will be taking over the defense. If you don't think there won't be ANY impact at all from Payton's absence then you should be checked into a mental hospital immediately. I would be fine with you hoping it doesn't impact the Saints but you're speaking it as fact. You seem to believe that if I say it enough, then it will come true.
I said I feel the Saints will win at least 12 games under the current circumstances. If Payton was around could they win 14? Perhaps. There is more talent on this year's roster than last year's which went 13-3 But, because Payton already installed 100% of his offense before he went on vacation the impact of his absence during the regular season will be minimal. It would have been FAR worse had he not been around for those two months following the end of the season.