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ATLBound · 10-25-2012, 01:20 PM

(10-25-2012 10:59 AM)AsylumGuido Wrote: RGIII is the new flavor of the day. Vick's star has burned out and just being honest here, Atlanta does not have much of an appeal nationally. Your average football fan couldn't pick a single Falcons' player out of a lineup other than Gonzo. It is all a numbers game and RGIII is a numbers magnet now.

Depends on what your definition of average is....

If that's the case people only know Brees on the Saints or Cam on the Panthers or Brady on the Pats or Ray Lewis on the Ravens based on what I think your definition of average is.

On the Saints they may know Vilma, but not for football.

Actually I think the Falcons may have more recognized faces than the Saints do, but you certainly have the more popular player.

Thats what its all about. The more popular player, not the team with the most known players.

Also of course the team brand is a big factor as well.

Teams like the Cowboys may not have the most popular player, but have rabid fans all over the place who will watch no matter what.

AsylumGuido · 10-25-2012, 01:29 PM

(10-25-2012 11:49 AM)natedogg1109 Wrote: You don't think the average football fan couldn't pick out Asante Samuel, Roddy White, Julio Jones, Turner and Ryan?

I would would classify myself as something more than an average fan. I am an NFL addict. I can honestly say that I couldn't pick any of them out. Julio Jones is distinctive because of the physique and the hair, but he still isn't that recognizable to me standing in a line with several other well built black men with long hair. I feel much of the reason is the clear lack of promotion. There are many players that are always in the public eye due to commercial endorsements and such. Gonzo has been front and center for year, but the other just aren't out there or are somewhat nondescript like Ryan. And it's not just the Falcons. Several teams are in the same boat.

This isn't a slam on the Falcon players at all, but an observation. It is the same reason Atlanta always seems to be halfway ignored in national coverage.

ATLBound · 10-25-2012, 01:37 PM

This is by no means any offense to you but I wouldn't classify you as an NFL addict then. I think I can name and point to a picture of about 10-15 players per team.

AsylumGuido · 10-25-2012, 01:37 PM

(10-25-2012 01:20 PM)ATLBound Wrote: Depends on what your definition of average is....

If that's the case people only know Brees on the Saints or Cam on the Panthers or Brady on the Pats or Ray Lewis on the Ravens based on what I think your definition of average is.

On the Saints they may know Vilma, but not for football.

Actually I think the Falcons may have more recognized faces than the Saints do, but you certainly have the more popular player.

Thats what its all about. The more popular player, not the team with the most known players.

Also of course the team brand is a big factor as well.

Teams like the Cowboys may not have the most popular player, but have rabid fans all over the place who will watch no matter what.

I agree. It only takes one hugely recognizable or well-respected person on an NFL team to generate interest. Ryan's problem is that he looks just like Joe Average. There is nothing distinctive about him. Romo has the dimple and goofy-assed grin. Eli has that dopey look and Manning has the pencil-neck. Brees has his birthmark, RGII has the grin and hair. Rodgers has those weird-assed eyes and Rivers has those crazy looking eyes. They all have features that make them very recognizable and therefore it is easier for the casual fan to identify with them.

ATLBound · 10-25-2012, 01:39 PM

(10-25-2012 01:37 PM)AsylumGuido Wrote: I agree. It only takes one hugely recognizable or well-respected person on an NFL team to generate interest. Ryan's problem is that he looks just like Joe Average. There is nothing distinctive about him. Romo has the dimple and goofy-assed grin. Eli has that dopey look and Manning has the pencil-neck. Brees has his birthmark, RGII has the grin and hair. Rodgers has those weird-assed eyes and Rivers has those crazy looking eyes. They all have features that make them very recognizable and therefore it is easier for the casual fan to identify with them.

Winning is another factor. When Ryan wins a SB, then that average joe excuse will go far out the window.

And no this is not an opportunity for you to claim we won't win one.

AsylumGuido · 10-25-2012, 01:42 PM

(10-25-2012 01:37 PM)ATLBound Wrote: This is by no means any offense to you but I wouldn't classify you as an NFL addict then. I think I can name and point to a picture of about 10-15 players per team.

Then you are definitely an addict. LOL Just curious, do you play video football? Madden?

I don't and never had. I would imagine that it would help make more players recognizable. I guess I probably could identify and name 10-15 players on most teams, but not all. As familiar as I am with the Falcons I usually only see them with their helmets on. There was that bus commercial, but I really didn't know many of the players at all.

AsylumGuido · 10-25-2012, 01:44 PM

(10-25-2012 01:39 PM)ATLBound Wrote: Winning is another factor. When Ryan wins a SB, then that average joe excuse will go far out the window.

And no this is not an opportunity for you to claim we won't win one.

LOL

ATLBound · 10-25-2012, 01:58 PM

(10-25-2012 01:42 PM)AsylumGuido Wrote: Then you are definitely an addict. LOL Just curious, do you play video football? Madden?

I don't and never had. I would imagine that it would help make more players recognizable. I guess I probably could identify and name 10-15 players on most teams, but not all. As familiar as I am with the Falcons I usually only see them with their helmets on. There was that bus commercial, but I really didn't know many of the players at all.

Madden certainly helped, but also watching every game from Sunday throughout the week helps too.

AUTiger7222 · 10-25-2012, 03:07 PM

I'll just say team records should mean something. Eagles play in the most popular division in the NFL and are 3-3. Falcons are 6-0. Combined record of 9-3. That should mean something.

ATLBound · 10-25-2012, 04:30 PM

(10-25-2012 03:07 PM)AUTiger7222 Wrote: I'll just say team records should mean something. Eagles play in the most popular division in the NFL and are 3-3. Falcons are 6-0. Combined record of 9-3. That should mean something.

Can't fault them for playing the games that will get them the most viewers. Thats the business they are in.