NFL: Schwartz pulled a Smitty, but...

[phocis850]

Smitty's team is good enough to overcome it.

I saw him throw the flag and I knew immediately that Jim Schwartz did not get the Mike Smith memo.

Absolutely horrible how they have so many chances to finish off the Texans, but for some reason just couldn't do it.

And Stafford needs to be punched in the face for what he did on 3rd down in OT. Guy just needed a few yards to get into field goal range. What does he do? Throws towards the endzone. It's clear that he still have some learning to do. He was trying to force something that wasn't there.

I don't blame their coach, or Pettigrew, or Stafford... the team made major mistakes when they needed to just hold onto the ball.

[Jesus]

I agree totally. Bad coaching and arrogant QB play cost then the game. With that said the challenge flag rule is awful and should be removed. He was down by a mile. I don't understand why they create rules to protect bad officiating.

[AUTiger7222]

I have never heard of that rule and then there it is twice in 2 games.

[phocis850]

That rule makes sense to me.

Basically, the play is going to be reviewed anyway, but if a coach throws the flag he's saying, "let me help you with that decision".

I don't agree with the rule, but I understand that it's in place for the refs to command the review process. A coach throwing a flag is an act of defiance.

[I Am The Truth]

(11-22-2012 08:29 PM)phocis850 Wrote:  That rule makes sense to me.

Basically, the play is going to be reviewed anyway, but if a coach throws the flag he's saying, "let me help you with that decision".

I don't agree with the rule, but I understand that it's in place for the refs to command the review process. A coach throwing a flag is an act of defiance.

I can agree with that sentiment on the surface. However, getting the call right should always be paramount--regardless of refs' feelings--and if the rule was in place JUST for what you stated, then refusing to review a play that would otherwise be reviewable is unnecessary, Draconian, and contradictory to the premise of the review process--which is put in place to get the call right. If your reason was the sole or overwhelming reason, then the 15 yard penalty should suffice as a way of penalizing a coach for "showing up the refs."

The rule, as currently constructed, is a joke. It gifted HOU 7 points, prevented a review that should have overturned the TD, and failed to satisfy the premise of getting the call right.

They got it wrong, and unfortunately for the Lions, it cost them big.

[papachaz]

at worst it should be a delay of game penalty, 5 yards. I can see maybe Smitty forgetting it was also put in place on turnovers this year, but for good ole Jim, it was in place last year for scoring plays.......no excuse for a coach over reacting on whats now a 2nd year rule

[ATLBound]

(11-22-2012 08:48 PM)I Am The Truth Wrote:  I can agree with that sentiment on the surface. However, getting the call right should always be paramount--regardless of refs' feelings--and if the rule was in place JUST for what you stated, then refusing to review a play that would otherwise be reviewable is unnecessary, Draconian, and contradictory to the premise of the review process--which is put in place to get the call right. If your reason was the sole or overwhelming reason, then the 15 yard penalty should suffice as a way of penalizing a coach for "showing up the refs."

The rule, as currently constructed, is a joke. It gifted HOU 7 points, prevented a review that should have overturned the TD, and failed to satisfy the premise of getting the call right.

They got it wrong, and unfortunately for the Lions, it cost them big.

This ^^^^^

Like he said the whole point is to get the call right...that point is lost because of hurt feelings. Its stupid

[juraitwaluzka]

(11-22-2012 08:48 PM)I Am The Truth Wrote:  I can agree with that sentiment on the surface. However, getting the call right should always be paramount--regardless of refs' feelings--and if the rule was in place JUST for what you stated, then refusing to review a play that would otherwise be reviewable is unnecessary, Draconian, and contradictory to the premise of the review process--which is put in place to get the call right. If your reason was the sole or overwhelming reason, then the 15 yard penalty should suffice as a way of penalizing a coach for "showing up the refs."

The rule, as currently constructed, is a joke. It gifted HOU 7 points, prevented a review that should have overturned the TD, and failed to satisfy the premise of getting the call right.

They got it wrong, and unfortunately for the Lions, it cost them big.

Agreed completely. Get the call right, don't pull a na na na na na na we aren't going to review the play because you threw your hanky. Even Mike Pereria, who normally has his nose up the ass of the refs and NFL said it was a stupid rule.

[ggp]

The whole situation is BS.

I can understand the refs missing a call....that happens. But why was that play not reviewable? A TD was scored, the replays clearly showed that the runner was down. Why isn't that play reviewable?

The Lions lost that game because of a NFL gaff. Once, again, the Texans get by a mediocre team. I sincerely hope the Falcons meet the Texans at the Super Bowl.

[Peyton]

The league is going to change this rule in the offseason. All that was needed was for this stupid rule to show it's face in a national TV game. Hopefully it won't impact anymore games for the rest of the season though.