NFL: Saints Bounty Thread

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The ledger's validity is called into question because it fails to correspond to either game stated as being the game it pertained to. Who is to say that it wasn't just filled out by someone with an ax to grind with the Saints. Perhaps the assistant coach fired by the Saints following the 2010 Super Bowl win? Some feel he is one of the two or more "multiple unnamed sources". The supposed ledger was allegedly kept by an assistant coach on the defensive staff according to the Yahoo story. What if this coach faked a ledger to pay back the Saints?



Right, let me give you an analogy- I take a lump of raw gold in to determine its purity, the man doing the tests screws up one and tells me the gold 98% pure gold instead of 99% pure gold, he indeed made a mistake, and guess what, it's still gold.
It's still a ledger, having a couple of dates misreported by a second hand source hardly qualifies as surprising or a reason to negate the whole thing.


That is what caused the huge backlash. Many players, current and former, have come out saying they have participated in pay for performance programs including things like hard hits and bell ringers, but what they chastised the Saints about were the claims of targeted premeditated attempts to injure specific players for payment.

Here's the actual language from the leagues statement when the suspended the coaches
& Loomis... targeting opposing players or rewarding players for injuring an opponent...
and this

9. A summary prepared following a Saints preseason game included the statement, "1 Cart-off – Crank up the John Deer (sic) Tractor" in reference to a hit on an opposing player. Similar statements are reflected in prepared documents or slides in connection with other games in multiple seasons. A review of the game films confirms that opposing players were injured on the plays identified in the documents.

Note that it says targeting opposing players OR payment for injury




As I said, the supposed ledger proves nothing first, unless proved valid. And then, if proved valid, proves nothing more than a pay for performance program that has never been denied.


Yeah, good bet that book exists, and it shows payments made to player when they injured someone. That's much more than pay for performance.

It also reinforces my point that the major player on both sides must be insane or stupid if they evidence doesn't exist.


If the NFL doesn't have a ledger proving payments for injury, it's just crazy to claim they do, they'll look like fools when it's presented; if the Saints had a ledger proving they just had a pay for performance and still apologized for a bounty system, they're just stupid.