NFL: Saints Bounty Thread

[AsylumGuido]

(10-22-2012 11:15 PM)AUTiger7222 Wrote:  I am so sick of all this Saints bounty crap.

As am I, friend. It is about to come to a head. But, I don't want it to end until the players are cleared.

[AsylumGuido]

(10-22-2012 10:45 PM)Peyton Wrote:  The fact that Cerullo says that he gave the money to Gregg Williams and Greg Williams says he doesn't know anything about the money brings both stories into question.

So yeah...I mean..that is a big hole in the NFL's evidence.

The NFL butchered this whole deal real bad, but I think it's going to be resolved soon.

Yup. As soon as Cerullo, Williams and the lead investigator Hummel get to be cross-examined it will all become clear.

[Beef]

(10-22-2012 11:24 PM)AsylumGuido Wrote:  I won't call you a dumbass because you may have some personal excuse, but the slide to which you are referring is the one that was playing off the New Orleans based reality star, Dawg the Bounty Hunter. This was classic Gregg Williams rhetoric. It was one of the top shows on cable at the time. He used it to get his point across. There is no way anyone would take that literally. It was only used that one week. He delivered a different message every week.

Oh, and I grew up in an Air Force house. My father spent over 30 years active duty. He was the very first enlisted man to step foot in Vietnam on a special mission. He was decorated for his service flying missions as a gunner in his first tour and was decorated for his position as the Lead Gunner in the theater in his second tour. He was the senior enlisted man in the entire Air Force when he retired and had two Pentagon Generals attend his retirement ceremony even though two full bird Colonels were retiring in the same ceremony. He served as Senior Enlisted Adviser to Base Commander at his last three bases.

After retiring he spent the next 18 years leading technical support for an international company. He has spent the last two and a half year battling stage four prostate cancer while doing everything he could do to still do what he feels is right.

He did all of this without needing to lower himself though his verbiage. So don't you DARE throw that out to me. You disgust me.

LOL, your dad was the first American soldier in Vietnam? Of course it was a "special mission" so completely unverifiable. Holy fuck you are a lunatic with all your lies. I don't believe a damn word you said about your dad. Does he know he has a pussy for a son?

Don't tell me what I can an can't do. Like I said, go fuck yourself.

[AsylumGuido]

(10-22-2012 11:19 PM)Beef Wrote:  The line that Adam Schefter quoted is clearly NOT about pay for performance or a "joke". And it was taken off the computers after Cerullo and Williams were gone. So it's not like Cerullo snuck back into the facilities and added it after he was let go.

You don't know the answer to this question any more than anyone else does. You are trying to ASSUME something here. That does not make it proof. Maybe he really did just hold on to it until it needed to come out at an appropriate time. Maybe he cared for the players and considered some of them friends. Maybe he didn't want to disparage them unless he was at his last resort.

So you're saying that he's put together this huge lie that concerns a multi-billion dollar organization and the law can prosecute him for slander/libel and yet not only did he forge everything, but he fucked up the dates and times in the process??

Really? Fucking REALLY?

YOU ARE GUESSING HERE TOO.

Where did you get this from? Show us where he actually said this.

First of all, you DO NOT KNOW if the NFL and Goodell have prevented anything of the sort. You are making this shit up out of thin air. Nobody has ever heard the NFL or Goodell say "We're afraid of anyone speaking to Cerullo so we're not letting it happen." As if they even have freaking control over who Cerullo chooses to talk to, which they don't. But I'm sure that's more shit you're going to make up about this.

Just because Jimmy Kennedy says Goodell lied doesn't mean he did. You acting like this is an absolute fact now is yet another reason why you have no damn credibility. Because you think you get to choose what is true and false and fact or lies. And you make up your own bullshit in between to fill in the gaps.

You don't know shit. You're a peon with 1/1000th the information that's really needed to know a smidgen of truth and reality in this situation. And you're over the fucking top biased and crazy to boot.

Keep dreaming, buddy boy. The whole thing is going down the crapper. I hope you aren't so unstable that you might do something harsh to yourself when your dreams of a "quagmire" disappear. There may actually be someone out there that cares for you.

[Beef]

(10-22-2012 11:31 PM)AsylumGuido Wrote:  Keep dreaming, buddy boy. The whole thing is going down the crapper. I hope you aren't so unstable that you might do something harsh to yourself when your dreams of a "quagmire" disappear. There may actually be someone out there that cares for you.

LOL, dude, i'm still cracking up about the "My dad was first in Vietnam!!" bullshit.

I'm sure he's real proud he's got a pathological liar and a whiny ass pussy for a son.

[ChrisD]

Mezzage boardz warzzz is fun!

[AsylumGuido]

(10-22-2012 11:30 PM)Beef Wrote:  LOL, your dad was the first American soldier in Vietnam? Of course it was a "special mission" so completely unverifiable. Holy fuck you are a lunatic with all your lies.

Don't tell me what I can an can't do. Like I said, go fuck yourself.

No, he was the first enlisted man that stepped foot in Vietnam during the conflict. If you knew Jack Shit about history you would know that all American military personal in Vietnam early on were all officers acting as advisers. In the early part of the war before any soldiers were ever assigned for duty my father's bomber crew out of Guam was escorting a General on a flyover mission and he ordered them to land. My father, as the tail gunner was the only enlisted man on the flight crew and disembarked thus becoming the first enlisted man to step foot on the ground.

His career is well documented and I am proud as hell of him.

You sir, can just go live with yourself. That would be punishment enough for the "normal" person.

[ATLBound]

(10-22-2012 11:31 PM)AsylumGuido Wrote:  Keep dreaming, buddy boy. The whole thing is going down the crapper. I hope you aren't so unstable that you might do something harsh to yourself when your dreams of a "quagmire" disappear. There may actually be someone out there that cares for you.

I'm not involved in the personal punches between yourself and Beef but he responded to your post in regards to the bounty and your response was "Keep dreaming"

He's right that you ASSUME a lot of the things you try to express as facts and thats the part people truly dislike about you.

He just listed a whole post of things that you assumed and you had no response for it other than "Keep dreaming"

Even the discussion between aftermath. Gregg signed a document saying there was money put up. If his story amd Cerullo's stories don't match it still doesn't make what he said not true. For example you said "Either Cerullo is lyinv or Gregg is lying, which one?"

But have you stopped to think that as long as one of them is telling the truth, then that means there's a bounty program?

Just stop assuming so much and the conversation can be a completely civil and respectable one.

[AsylumGuido]

(10-22-2012 11:52 PM)ATLBound Wrote:  I'm not involved in the personal punches between yourself and Beef but he responded to your post in regards to the bounty and your response was "Keep dreaming"

He's right that you ASSUME a lot of the things you try to express as facts and thats the part people truly dislike about you.

He just listed a whole post of things that you assumed and you had no response for it other than "Keep dreaming"

Even the discussion between aftermath. Gregg signed a document saying there was money put up. If his story amd Cerullo's stories don't match it still doesn't make what he said not true. For example you said "Either Cerullo is lyinv or Gregg is lying, which one?"

But have you stopped to think that as long as one of them is telling the truth, then that means there's a bounty program?

Just stop assuming so much and the conversation can be a completely civil and respectable one.

Okay, let's go back to the whole basis of the suspensions. The Saints were accused of a three year long ongoing program of placing bounties on opposing players for intentional injury.

Now, it has been boiled down to a possible incident where a confirmed liar swears $10000 cash money was placed on Warner's head. On the other hand, a career coach signs a statement saying that he wasn't involved because all he was handling was a pay for performance plan, but that Vilma offered $10000 on Favre.

Now, nine separate individuals that were in both of those meetings appeared in court and swore that there was never any bounty on Favre or Warner.

But, regardless, what the hell happened to the three year long bounty thing? Huh? The whole thing has been bullshit and once Cerullo and Williams have to testify it is all going to come clear.

[ATLUGA87]

What a mess this is, hilarious I must say though.