NFL: Saints Bounty Thread

[AsylumGuido]

(09-20-2012 05:48 PM)ATLBound Wrote:  Well I tend to agree slightly with what he has said and only in this regards.

There are times you have a logical answer or response to someone or something that goes against the idea that this process went on.

Then, there are times that you have an extremely illogical and biased response or answer.

For example, Gregg Williams and Cerullo has an affadavit confirming the goings on of the Saints' defensive locker room and your responses were.

1.) Cerullo is disgruntled, therefore he is a liar. --- I'm not denying he was disgruntled, but it doesn't make what he is saying a lie. Does it make him more willing to lie? Sure, BUT the other side of it is that it makes him more willing to be a snitch. And altho a snitch is frowned upon in many circles, it doesn't make said snitch a liar.

2.) Gregg's job is being dangled in front of him, therefore he is a liar. --- Once again the illogical response is that Goodell is basically blackmailing him or has his job in his hands so Williams may be lieing. This is beyond ridicoulous in my opinion. If he is found to be lieing, then it looks bad on Goodell, then it's more problems for Gregg. And one would think that Gregg has figures out that lieing is what got him in this perdicament in the first place. So thru logic the only way Gregg would feel obligated to lie about a bounty program or a $10k pledge from Vilma would be if Goodell basically blackmailed him.

3.) Saints defensive players and coaches have no reason to lie --- BS. Everybody has a reason to lie and also I would like to see direct quotes. Saying something in the proper format can be determined the truth but isn't the whole truth.

Etc.) I could go on about Mary Jo White, Hargrove's silence, Smith's silence, but these are the most recent ones.

As to 1.) and 2.), go back and read the declarations (that's right, they weren't affidavits) from Cerullo and Williams. Several key points differ in their accounts. The most important being that Cerullo stated that Vilma had $10000 cash that he put on Warner's head and that Cerullo took the cash and gave it to Williams. Williams said that the $10000 pledge was only spoken and there was no cash and that it was on Favre, not Warner.

At least one of the two ARE lying since their stories are contradictory.

As for 3.), as Dave pointed out, the testimony may not be public information at the time, but it will be.