NFL: Saints Bounty Thread

[AsylumGuido]

(09-19-2012 07:34 AM)JDaveG Wrote:  Hey, Guido -- we need another Mike Florio article. I have noted that Mike Florio makes up the totality of your multiple sources claiming the Saints are all sweetness and light and the angels in heaven all dance when they fart and all of that.

What about Stephanie Stradley? She is an attorney out of Houston that writes about sports law.

Gregg Williams “Bountygate” Declaration Raises More Questions Than It Answers

The first part of the article was written before the Cerullo declaration was shared. The second part compares the contradicting declarations. Based upon the dramatic differences in the accounts, one of the two has to be false. It may be too long to post here in its entirety, but here she points out key problems with the declarations:

[UPDATE 9/18 3:30 pm: Comparing and contrasting the Cerullo and Williams' statements. The Cerullo document provides a much different account on key points than Williams'. Timing wise, it is signed after the coaches were disciplined, so it is likely that the coaches did not see the declaration nor could defend against what it said. It was also signed right after the Jonathan Vilma defamation suit. Hmm.

The Williams statement, done after the Cerullo statement, does NOT mention allegations mentioned by Cerullo: 1. The "two five stacks." (Would that commonly be thought of as $10,000? No idea); 2. That the money was collected by Cerullo and kept by Williams; 3. That the offer with stacks of money was made before the Cardinals game for Warner; 4. The origins of the pay for performance pool and who was involved with it; 5.The timing for payments into the program.

As I noted before I read the declaration is that the problem with statements is that you can't cross-examine them. To discuss obvious bias or indiscrepancies. Or just how solid the memory of the person is on a subject. You know, the "Are you sure about that" question. You can see parts of the declaration where Cerullo isn't exactly sure of his memory, such as "to the best of my recollection and in substance" as it related to Anthony Hargroves' alleged statements.

Seems to me that you would need to be very cautious making public, reputation statements and significant punishments based on inconsistent information from sources who have their own reputational issues.]