NFL: Saints Bounty Thread

[AsylumGuido]

(09-02-2012 08:13 PM)JDaveG Wrote:  I ask you a question in 2 sentences and you write 7 paragraphs in response. Wonder why people here think you are a troll?

Lets boil down your answer to the brass tacks -- the reason Goodell "chose" the Saints is because he had EVIDENCE that the Saints were involved in a bounty program.

Your response boils down to "yeah, but I don't like the evidence."

Fine. But as judges like to tell me when I try to keep damaging evidence out, that goes to weight, not admissibility. The rest of us, quite clearly, place different weight on the evidence than you do. So lets quit pretending the Saints are innocent victims here. At the VERY LEAST, they were continuing a "pay for performance" program 2 full years after they were told in simple declarative sentences to stop it. If you want to blame someone, blame the moron who made that decision.

No,the reason Goodell "chose" the Saints was because he thought he had evidence. That evidence included two emails that contained a running joke about bounties based upon the false charges in 2010 by the league that the Saints had a bounty on Favre. It included a ledger that was supposed to be for a game against the Bill but was changed to be a game against a different team after it was shown that it had no correlation to the Bills game. It also had no correlation to the second game given. It included a handwritten ledger stating that Vitt gave $5000 as a bounty, which was admitted to be in error by Goodell. It included the claim that Vilma offered $10000 to take out Favre and Warner, a claim denied, under oath in District Court by seven Saints players and coach that were in every defensive meeting since 2009.

And yes, they were guilty of running a pay for performance program and I do blame the moron who made that decision ... Gregg Williams. But, that does not warrant penalties that were administered for something far, far more sinister without any justification.

Obviously Judge Berrigan agrees and that was after hearing the case from the NFL lawyers.