NFL: Saints Bounty Thread

[AsylumGuido]

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(08-27-2012 11:05 AM)JDaveG Wrote:  There was a report that the league offered to reduce Vilma's suspension. The league denied it. Do you have any evidence to back up your assertion that this was offered and Vilma turned it down?

League “definitely” offered eight-game reduction to Vilma

Forgotten by many, the bounty cases are hardly gone.

As the judge presiding over the litigation apparently waits for the August 30 appeal of a key grievance ruling and presumably hopes the parties will find a way to work out their differences on their own, a source with knowledge of the situation tells PFT that the NFL “definitely” offered an eight-game reduction in Saints linebacker Jonathan Vilma’s fine, at some point during the discussions.

Earlier this month, a report emerged that the league had offered to cut Vilma’s one-year suspension in half. The NFL denied that any such offer had been made.

Our source, who is in position to know, says it happened. It’s still not clear whether it was a formal offer or an implied — but nonetheless clear — indication that if Vilma would accept an eight-game reduction an eight-game reduction definitely would be available. Regardless, the source says Vilma could have had it, if he had wanted it.

Vilma apparently didn’t want it.

It’s not known whether there’s a chance of getting the case resolved if the league would offer to cut Vilma’s ban by more than eight game. (The other three players’ suspensions would have to be resolved, too.) It’s believed, however, that the NFL’s lawyers hope to insulate Commissioner Roger Goodell from ever having to testify. If that belief is accurate, and if Judge Helen G. Berrigan decides to convene a full-blown evidentiary hearing to resolve the conflicts in the sworn statements of Goodell, NFLPA executive director DeMaurice Smith, and Browns linebacker Scott Fujita on the question of whether Goodell was ready to discipline players when he disciplined non-players on March 21, the NFL could make an aggressive run at settling the entire case.

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Note the bold red section. Now why would they be afraid to have Goodell testify? Perhaps because he would be forced to tell what he now knows is the truth?

[Drathdon]

That would be me. I thought we were so close to our first 1000 reply thread, why let an opportunity like that go to waste!

[JDaveG]

(08-27-2012 02:54 PM)AsylumGuido Wrote:  Copied from other thread:


League “definitely” offered eight-game reduction to Vilma

Forgotten by many, the bounty cases are hardly gone.

As the judge presiding over the litigation apparently waits for the August 30 appeal of a key grievance ruling and presumably hopes the parties will find a way to work out their differences on their own, a source with knowledge of the situation tells PFT that the NFL “definitely” offered an eight-game reduction in Saints linebacker Jonathan Vilma’s fine, at some point during the discussions.

Earlier this month, a report emerged that the league had offered to cut Vilma’s one-year suspension in half. The NFL denied that any such offer had been made.

Our source, who is in position to know, says it happened. It’s still not clear whether it was a formal offer or an implied — but nonetheless clear — indication that if Vilma would accept an eight-game reduction an eight-game reduction definitely would be available. Regardless, the source says Vilma could have had it, if he had wanted it.

Vilma apparently didn’t want it.

It’s not known whether there’s a chance of getting the case resolved if the league would offer to cut Vilma’s ban by more than eight game. (The other three players’ suspensions would have to be resolved, too.) It’s believed, however, that the NFL’s lawyers hope to insulate Commissioner Roger Goodell from ever having to testify. If that belief is accurate, and if Judge Helen G. Berrigan decides to convene a full-blown evidentiary hearing to resolve the conflicts in the sworn statements of Goodell, NFLPA executive director DeMaurice Smith, and Browns linebacker Scott Fujita on the question of whether Goodell was ready to discipline players when he disciplined non-players on March 21, the NFL could make an aggressive run at settling the entire case.

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Note the bold red section. Now why would they be afraid to have Goodell testify? Perhaps because he would be forced to tell what he now knows is the truth?

PFT.

[AsylumGuido]

(08-27-2012 05:41 PM)JDaveG Wrote:  PFT.

They have been the first, and sometimes only, outlet to share believable an accurate news on the subject. Of course Goodell and the NFL would deny offering a deal. Unlike ESPN, PFT would require verifiable sources before coming out with that strong a story. And remember, PFT was not the first and not the only outlet to report the offer.

[Beef]

Guilty people sometimes get offered deals too.

You trying to act like it's proof Goodell has nothing is freaking retarded as usual.

It's called risk management and lowest possible cost scenerio. If it's going to cost them $10 million to fight this in court or $250 thousand to just cut Vilma a deal, it's very reasonable to choose to save shit tons of money.

Now please STFU and go away again. It was so much better without your shit vomit smelling up the place.

[AsylumGuido]

(08-27-2012 07:17 PM)Beef Wrote:  Guilty people sometimes get offered deals too.

You trying to act like it's proof Goodell has nothing is freaking retarded as usual.

It's called risk management and lowest possible cost scenerio. If it's going to cost them $10 million to fight this in court or $250 thousand to just cut Vilma a deal, it's very reasonable to choose to save shit tons of money.

Now please STFU and go away again. It was so much better without your shit vomit smelling up the place.

I love you, too, Beef. Keep believing, Bro!

LOL!

[phocis850]

Another article, another unknown, but highly reliable, source.
PFT is making good ad revenue off Saints fans.

[Templar]

God this forum was a great place to come read about Falcons news for a few weeks...Now some douchebag troll from the unwashed scrotum of North America shows back up and we're back on this again.

[Jesus]

Its all old news. Everyone is serving their suspensions. The saints have moved their fans have not.

[papachaz]

(08-27-2012 08:41 PM)phocis850 Wrote:  Another article, another unknown, but highly reliable, source.
PFT is making good ad revenue off Saints fans.

amazing how some people give full credit to one 'source with knowledge' but not others huh....so this source with knowledge is more believeable than Goodells 'sources with knowledge' I call bullshit plain and simple

oh, but wait, the saints fans just 'know in their heart' that their guys didn't do it, so it must be so!

we're not laughing WITH you saints fans, we're laughing AT you