NFL: Not to just beat a dead horse...

[Beef]

(03-24-2012 07:15 PM)AsylumGuido Wrote:  Oh, and I expect the defense to be improved over last year's version, even with any suspensions that may occur.

LOL, of course you would.

You could lose your DC, every defensive coach (not just your LB), and your entire starting 11 and your homer ass would sit here and tell us you think you're defense will be improved and fully capable of dominating in the SB.

Then again, I guess since you were ranked 24th in total defense last year while your offense was ranked 1st and had the highest time of possession in the league (meaning your defense was on the field less than any other team in the league), I guess up is the only place for your defense to go.

[AsylumGuido]

(03-24-2012 07:26 PM)Beef Wrote:  LOL, of course you would.

You could lose your DC, every defensive coach (not just your LB), and your entire starting 11 and your homer ass would sit here and tell us you think you're defense will be improved and fully capable of dominating in the SB.

Then again, I guess since you were ranked 24th in total defense last year while your offense was ranked 1st and had the highest time of possession in the league (meaning your defense was on the field less than any other team in the league), I guess up is the only place for your defense to go.

Ding, ding, ding!!! Give the man a cigar! Coach Spags is already bringing in players that can handle his defense while letting those that can't go free. Williams was quickly becoming unpopular with Saints fans over the past two years with that "defense" he was throwing out there.

Whatever sanctions come down on players aren't likely to cause the team to perform any worse than they did last year on the defensive side of the ball.

[ATLBound]

(03-24-2012 07:13 PM)AsylumGuido Wrote:  Oh, and even if Payton did know it was going on, he most certainly has not admitted it. He has apologized for it happening under his watch and takes full responsibility. But, if you check back to every statement from both Loomis and Payton, neither has said that they "knew it was going on". Gregg Williams is the only one who has admitted to being knowledgeable of the fact a player could be rewarded for knocking players out of games.

Ummm the evidence showed that Payton received an email telling him that $5000 (forgot the actual amount) was placed on Rodgers for the 2011 Season opener between the Saints and Packers.

When this email was brought up to Payton, Payton then confirmed that the email was referring to a bounty being placed on Rodgers.

So yes, he did know about it.

[AsylumGuido]

(03-24-2012 08:18 PM)ATLBound Wrote:  Ummm the evidence showed that Payton received an email telling him that $5000 (forgot the actual amount) was placed on Rodgers for the 2011 Season opener between the Saints and Packers.

When this email was brought up to Payton, Payton then confirmed that the email was referring to a bounty being placed on Rodgers.

So yes, he did know about it.

Forgot that. You are correct, Sir.

[ATLBound]

(03-24-2012 08:27 PM)AsylumGuido Wrote:  Forgot that. You are correct, Sir.

Wait that was too easy...R u on any meds right now?

[AsylumGuido]

(03-24-2012 08:33 PM)ATLBound Wrote:  Wait that was too easy...R u on any meds right now?

Explain later. gotta run.

[Jesus]

(03-24-2012 06:53 PM)Templar Wrote:  I still keep wondering if we're going to see actual litigation from this.

There is legal precedence that a pro football player accepts a certain risk factor by playing the game, just as each of us accepts a certain amount of risk each time we get on a plane or drive a car.

However, it is verified that these players, coaches and outside contributors were putting up money to pay for the intentional injury of another player. Thereby, the acceptance of risk no longer applies.

For example, if I put up an offer of $10,000 for someone if they injured Guido in a car accident, that overrides the acceptance of risk. On top of that, such an offer made public would likely bring litigation and perhaps criminal charges against me.

Vilma put up $10,000 on knocking Favre out of the game, and he received several violent and questionable hits during that game. If Favre were a vindictive man, he could probably bring charges against Vilma, Williams and anyone else who contributed to that pot, and against any aint player who hit him in even a questionable manner during that game. Warner could do the same, and perhaps even sue for massive damages as he received a concussion during that game.

Again, this argument of "everyone does it" and so on doesn't really fly. Hermann Goring tried that defense once and you know how that turned out. Payton and Williams both said that they knew it was wrong and they didn't stop it. There you go. They knowingly committed the crimes and fucked the aint nation in the process.

Personally, I find the aint nation getting fucked hilarious and hope that it never stops. I find it hilarious that the fans are getting behind these guys who knowingly fucked them. I can't wait to hear all the excuses and crying and moaning once the player suspensions come down. I'll laugh my ass off if I get to see Vilma behind bars.

Of course, it's also going to be beautiful to see the depleted aint defense get 40,50 and even 60 points put up on them week in and week out.

Congrats for going all Godwin on us. I think you might be the first in AFT history.

[Templar]

(03-24-2012 08:57 PM)Jesus Wrote:  Congrats for going all Godwin on us. I think you might be the first in AFT history.

I did that a while back when I stated I would pull for a team of ex convicts that were coached by Adolf Hitler in a game against the aints. As it turns out now, it looks like the felons and Hitler may have higher moral character than the aints anyway.

[Falconidae]

Love the defense that it wasn't much money and that very few players actually got injured playing against the Saints.

" Well, what we did was illegal and tainted the game, but since we're cheap and incompetent we shouldn't have to pay."

[AsylumGuido]

(03-26-2012 02:31 PM)Falconidae Wrote:  Love the defense that it wasn't much money and that very few players actually got injured playing against the Saints.

" Well, what we did was illegal and tainted the game, but since we're cheap and incompetent we shouldn't have to pay."

No, the Saints should have to pay and have. Nobody with half a brain is arguing that point.

I swear, I can't wait until every bit of supposed evidence that Goodell claims to have goes public.