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**USAF HART** · 06-26-2011, 04:35 PM

I don't see a full season. The players and owners all see $$$ and refuse to budge either way.

**USAF HART** · 06-26-2011, 04:39 PM

(06-26-2011 10:33 AM)Radical Wrote: Yes, calling everyone stupid fucking mindless retards because they won't rally for a boycott when they haven't been effected in any way by this lockout is so realistic.

Quit being a Swifty drama queen.

LOL at me being a "swifty drama queen." whatever that even is. I created the facebook page a long time ago. I stopped caring about it. I'm not lobbying anymore for people to sign up for it. If more people join then that's cool. If not, then it's not a big deal to me.

Let me ask you this though, if we get a shortened season, how will you feel/be affected?

**Radical** · 06-27-2011, 02:17 AM

Until there is a game missed, it doesn't bother me. Once we lose games, then I will have a reason to be upset.

Beef · (This post was last modified: 06-27-2011 08:33 AM by Beef.)

(06-26-2011 04:35 PM)USAF HART Wrote: I don't see a full season. The players and owners all see $$$ and refuse to budge either way.

You realize the usual training camp doesn't normally start until the last week of July and it's still June?

Both sides are clearly leaking information to the press every day on purpose about the negotiations and the folks who make the final decisions say they are nearly done except for a few things about the rookie wage scale and then simple red-tape (meaning physical paperwork/CBA signed and re-instituting the PA).

This thing is going to be done by July 8th, we'll have 2-3 weeks of FA and signing of rookies, then TC will either start on time or at worse a week late. But we're not even going to miss pre-season games much less regular season games. And if you don't realize this by now then you're just being deliberately obtuse.

**USAF HART** · (This post was last modified: 06-27-2011 09:07 AM by USAF HART.)

(06-27-2011 08:31 AM)Beef Wrote: You realize the usual training camp doesn't normally start until the last week of July and it's still June?

Both sides are clearly leaking information to the press every day on purpose about the negotiations and the folks who make the final decisions say they are nearly done except for a few things about the rookie wage scale and then simple red-tape (meaning physical paperwork/CBA signed and re-instituting the PA).

This thing is going to be done by July 8th, we'll have 2-3 weeks of FA and signing of rookies, then TC will either start on time or at worse a week late. But we're not even going to miss pre-season games much less regular season games. And if you don't realize this by now then you're just being deliberately obtuse.

No, I don't know this information, because I have not been following the NFL at all. It's baseball season and baseball has always been my favorite sport. I could watch baseball all year round, and not miss NFL. I watched the Falcons pick Julio Jones in the draft and haven't paid attention to much of anything else NFL related. When I hear that a deal is done and in place, then I will start following again. but not until then.

Passepartout · 06-27-2011, 10:52 PM

Well they say that there is progress being made by mid-July. But it seems to be all talk. Hopefully there will be a season. Whatever season whether it be 17-game or 8-game. Nobody can sign due to the lockouts. Whether it be a rookie or a veteran. After the lockouts end, then the signing can begin. Lots and lots of those will be at the front office.