NFL: Mike Mularkey is an candidate for the Jags Head Coaching job

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(12-07-2011 11:37 AM)JDaveG Wrote:  This isn't directed at you, but the above raises an interesting thought with me. We're all just guessing at what the problem is, but my take on the flea flicker is simple -- if it's that poorly executed (Turner threw the pitch back late and Matt let go of the football when the throw wasn't there), is it because our players are incapable of properly executing a play or because it wasn't installed properly or wasn't practiced enough?

I don't know the answer to that, but since we don't use it much, my guess would be the latter, personally. Maybe I'm wrong about that, but I see that as a coaching issue.

We did the same flea flicker last year and it also was borked. Snelling was in instead of Turner that game. Snelling had that wtf look on his face.

[Beef]

The Packers won the SB with a 10-6 regular season record last year and have transformed into the elite of the elite since the last time they lost a game.

It CAN be done. Turnarounds DO obviously happen. But for us to even stand a chance at the notion, we have to start maximizing the efficiency of the things that minimize our weaknesses while also maximizing the efficiency of the things that we are strong at.

1. We have a bad OL, yet too often we're running plays that require a very good OL.
2. We have a QB that is tough as hell, but hates to get hit, so when he sees/feels pressure, he gets happy feet and loses considerable accuracy or simply panics. There are n+1 plays in existance that can compensate for this and really punish defenses for over-rushing. Oddly enough, we hardly run them.
3. Whether certain people here want to admit it or not, we're obnoxiously predictable far far too often and that does hurt us. Establishing the run with 100% obvious run plays against 100% run defending sets is a ridiculously low percentage of success call. There are DOZENS of run plays that can do the same thing and are 1000% less predictable.
4. Our receivers can make incredible acrobatic catches one second and drop a ball that hits them in the hands the next. And it wasn't always like this. So what's wrong if not simply lack of confidence and focus? And WHY is there a lack of confidence and focus? Is it just a rolling snowball that starts with the OL? There's obviously some pressure being created by something that's causing this. Here's where coaching is lacking.
5. We have a kid that touched the ball 927x in 3 years of college and gained nearly 5k yards, having only 1 fumble in that time that wasn't even his fault. USE HIM!
6. Why are we running 5'9 185 lb 5th string WR's out there when 6'3 230 lb sure hands Meier is standing on the sideline every game?

And I feel like I could keep going on like this but I just don't feel like it. Point is, the offense fails the smooth machine unpredictable eyeball test right now. And until we can stop looking sloppy, play to our strengths, utilize all our weapons, and minimize our weaknesses, we're going to continue to be a very under-acheiving second tier offense.

[SoCalFalconFan]

(12-07-2011 03:22 PM)Beef Wrote:  The Packers won the SB with a 10-6 regular season record last year and have transformed into the elite of the elite since the last time they lost a game.

It CAN be done. Turnarounds DO obviously happen. But for us to even stand a chance at the notion, we have to start maximizing the efficiency of the things that minimize our weaknesses while also maximizing the efficiency of the things that we are strong at.

1. We have a bad OL, yet too often we're running plays that require a very good OL.
2. We have a QB that is tough as hell, but hates to get hit, so when he sees/feels pressure, he gets happy feet and loses considerable accuracy or simply panics. There are n+1 plays in existance that can compensate for this and really punish defenses for over-rushing. Oddly enough, we hardly run them.
3. Whether certain people here want to admit it or not, we're obnoxiously predictable far far too often and that does hurt us. Establishing the run with 100% obvious run plays against 100% run defending sets is a ridiculously low percentage of success call. There are DOZENS of run plays that can do the same thing and are 1000% less predictable.
4. Our receivers can make incredible acrobatic catches one second and drop a ball that hits them in the hands the next. And it wasn't always like this. So what's wrong if not simply lack of confidence and focus? And WHY is there a lack of confidence and focus? Is it just a rolling snowball that starts with the OL? There's obviously some pressure being created by something that's causing this. Here's where coaching is lacking.
5. We have a kid that touched the ball 927x in 3 years of college and gained nearly 5k yards, having only 1 fumble in that time that wasn't even his fault. USE HIM!
6. Why are we running 5'9 185 lb 5th string WR's out there when 6'3 230 lb sure hands Meier is standing on the sideline every game?

And I feel like I could keep going on like this but I just don't feel like it. Point is, the offense fails the smooth machine unpredictable eyeball test right now. And until we can stop looking sloppy, play to our strengths, utilize all our weapons, and minimize our weaknesses, we're going to continue to be a very under-acheiving second tier offense.

+1 - Extremely intelligent post, which I happen to agree wholeheartedly with.

[juraitwaluzka]

(12-08-2011 07:03 PM)SoCalFalconFan Wrote:  +1 - Extremely intelligent post, which I happen to agree wholeheartedly with.

I concur

[Knight of God]

(12-07-2011 03:22 PM)Beef Wrote:  The Packers won the SB with a 10-6 regular season record last year and have transformed into the elite of the elite since the last time they lost a game.

It CAN be done. Turnarounds DO obviously happen. But for us to even stand a chance at the notion, we have to start maximizing the efficiency of the things that minimize our weaknesses while also maximizing the efficiency of the things that we are strong at.

1. We have a bad OL, yet too often we're running plays that require a very good OL.
2. We have a QB that is tough as hell, but hates to get hit, so when he sees/feels pressure, he gets happy feet and loses considerable accuracy or simply panics. There are n+1 plays in existance that can compensate for this and really punish defenses for over-rushing. Oddly enough, we hardly run them.
3. Whether certain people here want to admit it or not, we're obnoxiously predictable far far too often and that does hurt us. Establishing the run with 100% obvious run plays against 100% run defending sets is a ridiculously low percentage of success call. There are DOZENS of run plays that can do the same thing and are 1000% less predictable.
4. Our receivers can make incredible acrobatic catches one second and drop a ball that hits them in the hands the next. And it wasn't always like this. So what's wrong if not simply lack of confidence and focus? And WHY is there a lack of confidence and focus? Is it just a rolling snowball that starts with the OL? There's obviously some pressure being created by something that's causing this. Here's where coaching is lacking.
5. We have a kid that touched the ball 927x in 3 years of college and gained nearly 5k yards, having only 1 fumble in that time that wasn't even his fault. USE HIM!
6. Why are we running 5'9 185 lb 5th string WR's out there when 6'3 230 lb sure hands Meier is standing on the sideline every game?

And I feel like I could keep going on like this but I just don't feel like it. Point is, the offense fails the smooth machine unpredictable eyeball test right now. And until we can stop looking sloppy, play to our strengths, utilize all our weapons, and minimize our weaknesses, we're going to continue to be a very under-acheiving second tier offense.

Awesome points and I agree 1000%

[takeitdown]

(12-06-2011 09:23 PM)Radical Wrote:  A NFL QB has to be able to hit that more times than not.

The best in the league, Brady, Roethlisberger, Rodgers, Brees, Rivers didn't connect on more than 8 passes over 30 yards all of last year.

I know it doesn't seem that way. But the best guys, and the supposed long ball throwers only connected on 1 every 2 games. Brady 1 every 3 games.

The key is getting people open in that midrange with room to run. Ryan needs to get better at the deep ball, but it's never going to be a big part of the offense, because it's his weakness...and for the QBs who are best at it it doesn't form a large part of the offense.

We should by all means still throw a few, to keep the D honest, but it's good to keep in mind how often they actually work, and how little the top offenses use them.

[takeitdown]

(12-06-2011 03:49 AM)Radical Wrote:  What amazes me though is that as many times as we've had guys open, especially deep, only to have the pass missed or dropped, we still want to kill Mularkey. I mean come on, how many times did we have a WR open 20+ yards down the field only for the play to get fucked up? We had Julio Jones, our #2 WR, wide open at the end of the game against the Texans prevent defense, and the pass was dropped. I mean damn, what more do you want out of your OC? People are open down the field, the OC has done his job.

If the OC can only get guys open 30+ yards down the field, on a low percentage throw for the best of QBs, and the known primary weakness of his own QB...that's a knock on the OC.

Ryan doesn't throw a good deep ball. It was his biggest weakness when they drafted him, and it still is. They either have to tell him to throw it up to his big guys (throw it short) or get people open in the intermediate range.

Scheming to do what your team is weakest at is not helpful. It's just like...hey, when Turner runs up the middle, there are HUGE holes to the outside. But it's not on Turner that he doesn't bounce it outside with great lateral agility. That's not the kind of player he is.

I hate Ryan's deep ball. Just so no one thinks I'm trying to claim he has a great one. But if they're running timing deep routes with receivers above 6', instead of throw it and let them get it...it's stupid. Timing is easily thrown off on those routes. And if they're wanting to rely on 30+ yard passes for explosive plays, they're messing up. Explosive plays are caused by guys catching it with open space in the 10-25 yard range. That's what successful NFL offenses use to stretch it.

[Passepartout]

We shall see what will happen, now won't we?!

[SoCalFalconFan]

(12-08-2011 11:50 PM)takeitdown Wrote:  If the OC can only get guys open 30+ yards down the field, on a low percentage throw for the best of QBs, and the known primary weakness of his own QB...that's a knock on the OC.

Ryan doesn't throw a good deep ball. It was his biggest weakness when they drafted him, and it still is. They either have to tell him to throw it up to his big guys (throw it short) or get people open in the intermediate range.

Scheming to do what your team is weakest at is not helpful. It's just like...hey, when Turner runs up the middle, there are HUGE holes to the outside. But it's not on Turner that he doesn't bounce it outside with great lateral agility. That's not the kind of player he is.

I hate Ryan's deep ball. Just so no one thinks I'm trying to claim he has a great one. But if they're running timing deep routes with receivers above 6', instead of throw it and let them get it...it's stupid. Timing is easily thrown off on those routes. And if they're wanting to rely on 30+ yard passes for explosive plays, they're messing up. Explosive plays are caused by guys catching it with open space in the 10-25 yard range. That's what successful NFL offenses use to stretch it.

These were good points, as well. But, like Beef alluded to in his last post, I believe Mularkey's biggest downfall this season is his inability to dial up plays to make defenses pay out of their pressure packages. Like many other fans, I can't for the life of me figure out why the guy, at the NFL level, doesn't have an array of screen plays printed out on Matty Ice's wrist. Biggest knock on Mularkey, in my opinion. And that's saying something, because his play calling is abismal at times.

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I mean, once again, maybe its some screen design secret that I'm missing, but his screens are usually stuffed. I've watched us run 3 to Julio in one game, and our linemen couldn't get in position quick enough...roddy missed a block on another screen I remember, I think against the saints