Matt Ryan's Three Year Progress Report

[RFlagg]

(02-08-2011 12:09 PM)Paulitik Wrote:  I've had Swift on ignore since he joined. The problem is, he hijacks so many threads you can't avoid or ignore him. His posts are quoted, which still show up and threads tend to go off on ridiculous tangents once he gives his input. The dude isn't just a troll, he's a virus.

True, but I'm trying to no longer focus on him.

Back on topic, here's the winning percentage, over the first 3 years, of each QB as well.

Winning Percentage
Marino: 0.805
Ryan: 0.717
Elway: 0.675
Brady: 0.667
Montana: 0.625
Favre: 0.586
Manning: 0.542
Kelly: 0.500
Brees: 0.370
Aikman: 0.368
Moon: 0.267
Young: 0.227

[Gritz]

These are all good stats and show the maturation of an NFL QB.....

Ryan definitely needs to work on his deep ball and moving defensive backs around with his eyes better.

God, that Tramon Williams interception in the GB game was the worst ball I have ever seen Ryan throw. It had nothing to do with arm strength though....That pass was so obvious and telegraphed....It was just a piss poor decision.

[Paulitik]

(02-08-2011 12:15 PM)Swift Is a Die Hard Wrote:  Paulitik

Our QB is not a failure by any means just a disappointment in his 2 biggest games and was outplayed by the great Aaron Rodgers while Rodgers had a depleted squad and Ryan healthy squad in our building . Ryan will never be in the same breathe as Rodgers but you guys shouldn't take that as a insult some players are just more talented then others . So I'm glad to have Ryan I was one of the very select that wanted him here I do see some flaws in his game and his short comings that might stop him from being on the level of the TRULY GREAT ones . Ryan is young and still got ton of room for improvement and development but there could be that chance his ceiling has been hit you can only do so much with god given talent or lack there of .

Once again, if you love Rodgers so much, go to the Packers boards. Rodgers is 5 years in, and finally proved he can win the big games this postseason. Rodgers was a choker in the regular season and the playoffs until this year. The comparison between him and Matt is ridiculous based on the circumstances both QBs were placed in.

Rodgers was placed in a pass happy system, Matt was not. Rodgers has 4 great WRs, Matt has 1. Rodgers has every advantage over Matt as far as system, having a HOF mentor, talent (offensive and defensive) around him. Rodgers took the helm of a NFC Championship caliber team, the other a team who's franchise QB was in Jail, and coach quit on the team. With all those advantages , stat-wise and number of wins, it's not like Rodgers is blowing him out of the water. I would expect a 5th year 1st round QB to be a little further along than a 3rd year.

All Matt has to do is get a Super Bowl win in the next 2 years and he'll have exceeded Aaron Rodgers for all his accomplishments in his first 5.

As far as talent goes, Rodgers may be more mobile, but I think Matt and his ceilings are pretty close otherwise.

[Paulitik]

(02-08-2011 12:17 PM)Gritblitzer Wrote:  Yep. We have the ignore feature here too.

Works like a charm.

No, not really. Which is unfortunate.

[KJinCton]

Ah...just added him to ignore. How refreshing it is. Maybe someone should start a "I added $!#$%#$ to the ignore list" thread. Who knows how big that thread could get...

[Gritz]

(02-08-2011 12:32 PM)Paulitik Wrote:  No, not really. Which is unfortunate.

Well, it does as much as any limited ignore feature can. Obviously you're going to see the quoted text from the ignored person (which is indeed unfortunate).

It just takes a bit of discipline.

Once you realize that the person you're ignoring isn't worth a response then it actually becomes quite easy.

[swanlee]

(02-08-2011 10:12 AM)Peyton Wrote:  Guys, just ignore Swift's posts if you don't like what he has to say. I can't allow members to simply ignore the rules because Swift constantly focuses on the negative. He's not breaking the rules. He makes some good points. Just ignore him if you don't like it.

Thing it that is what the trolls do over at AFMB, they skate by the rules being careful not to break any rules at all while they are trolling around. It doesn't make them any less of a troll and at some point you have to look at the body of a users posts, if it is 95% negative all the time or focused of negativity towards one player all the time it is time to reevaluate that person.

[TeamPlayer1]

(02-08-2011 12:45 PM)Gritblitzer Wrote:  Well, it does as much as any limited ignore feature can. Obviously you're going to see the quoted text from the ignored person (which is indeed unfortunate).

It just takes a bit of discipline.

Once you realize that the person you're ignoring isn't worth a response then it actually becomes quite easy.

Regretfully, I have followed suit and placed the poster in question on my ignore list. I was hoping to not have to use this feature here. I can only take so much.

[Swift Is a Die Hard]

(02-08-2011 12:31 PM)Paulitik Wrote:  Once again, if you love Rodgers so much, go to the Packers boards. Rodgers is 5 years in, and finally proved he can win the big games this postseason. Rodgers was a choker in the regular season and the playoffs until this year. The comparison between him and Matt is ridiculous based on the circumstances both QBs were placed in.

Rodgers was placed in a pass happy system, Matt was not. Rodgers has 4 great WRs, Matt has 1. Rodgers has every advantage over Matt as far as system, having a HOF mentor, talent (offensive and defensive) around him. Rodgers took the helm of a NFC Championship caliber team, the other a team who's franchise QB was in Jail, and coach quit on the team. With all those advantages , stat-wise and number of wins, it's not like Rodgers is blowing him out of the water. I would expect a 5th year 1st round QB to be a little further along than a 3rd year.

All Matt has to do is get a Super Bowl win in the next 2 years and he'll have exceeded Aaron Rodgers for all his accomplishments in his first 5.

As far as talent goes, Rodgers may be more mobile, but I think Matt and his ceilings are pretty close otherwise.

Bout to really destroy this post sorry Paulitik no offense

First off Rodgers is in his 6th year as QB he sat three years behind a HOF QB who
did not help him in his progression in Favre own words that WAS NOT HIS JOB

So in his 3rd year starting he help lead is team to a SUPER BOWL ..and picking up MVp honors without a rb or a TE ..What do they say about those 2 things are a QBS best friend correct .

Aaron Rodgers this years didnt have the likes of a pro bowl rb like Matt Ryan did
or a HOF TE to lean on ..He did it with 2 very solid wrs and a bunch of wrs that fit the system Jordy Nelson (who has same stats as THE hated Michael Jenkins) both are 3rd options on there team ..
If you dont know what that means it goes

1)Roddy & Jennings ..
2)Driver & Tony G
3)Michael Jenkins & Jordy Nelson

add in Packers didnt have that running game to take pressure off there QB unlike the pro bowl RB we have in Michael Turner...


Aaron Rodgers came into our building with a DEPLETED team (15 guys on ir) i know i know last year we used that as a excuse why we didnt make playoffs but Packers fought adversity and actually made playoffs and not only won 1 playoff game but 3 road ones and a Super Bowl...(while being on a injured team

Onto playoff game in our building ..

Ryan made the CRUCIAL mistakes that let the game get away from us .
2 ints and one brought back to house on a piss poor decision .

while Rodgers basically played practice with our shitty ass defense.(TIME for you to start criticizing TD but you wont cause typical homer style)


what homers do is well Ryan doesnt have weapons /doesnt have a defense but THINK TD IS A GOD ...its quite comedy that you guys dont see the hypocrites in yourself ..Maybe if you started to criticize TD for maybe not building the defense
you guys would have leg to stand on but I guess I have to be Mr Negative


Truth is Ryan will never and I say NEVER be as good as Aaron Rodgers..but Matt Ryan can be very good but we are looking for someone special to get us the ring we all want as Falcons fans


Packers didnt find excuses to win a SUPER BOWL

NEITHER SHOULD WE

[cnasty]

One thing I think we can all be sure about going into next season (if there is one) is that Matt Ryan will be a better QB in 2011 than he was in 2010. He has continually showed progress over the course of his career. He is a student of the game and that's just something that no level of talent can make up for. He will do his homework, fix areas of his game that he sees flawed, and he will come back as a better player for the Falcons. If nothing else, that is something that we can all look forward to going into next season.