Leave it to Beaver (s)

[ggp]

The title of this thread will appeal to an older demographic, but I couldn't resist.

We now have an Oregon Beaver backfield. I am not sure where that leaves Snelliing. If he stays, I imagine he will see little of the field.

Our version of thunder and lightning comes from Corvalis, Oregon. That part of the country is not really known to produce RB's but I like the talents they bring to the team. While Rodgers is not a speed demon, he has the shiftiness and enough power to keep SJax fresh.

The way I see it breaking down, Smitty will use SJax as sparingly as possible during the regular season. Smitty does a very good job of sparing his veterans. I was thinking of the best way to preserve SJax and still give him enough carries to get comfortable with the offense. The objective is to win in the post season, so he should probably be carefully weaned into this offense.

A possible scenario, for the first twelve games, would go like this:

SJax - 12 carries and three screens per game.
Rodgers - 10 carries per game.

After the twelth game:

SJax - 15 carries and five passing targets per game
Rodgers - 8 carries per game.

During the playoffs, SJax should be used whenever a short yardage situation should arise.

Of course, you can't go into games with hard numbers like that, but I think that Smitty is smart enough to limit SJax's wear and tear. He will do a good job of keeping this very powerful weapon fresh for the post season.

The dirtiest words uttered on network TV continue to be:

Ward, don't you think you were a little rough on the beaver last night?

[Xanthri]

As a Beaver Alum myself....I can tell you there are some superb Gems that come out of Oregon State....what makes them better....they know how to play in foul whether meaning they can catch and typically hold onto a ball better than a lot of other options. I still think even with his small size James Rodgers (Quizz's brother) could be an outstanding slot type receiver for much lower price tag....

There are some others coming out soon....CB Poyer reminds me of a better version of Grimes (IE real nose for the ball)

Bottom line is while the Beavers have been up and down over the years, the guys from there can play in adverse weather conditions and play with a lot of Heart......

There is a TE coming out soon, who catches anything thrown his way.....not saying we need all these guys at all....just that much like a lot of Oregon Ducks there is a lot of talent in those Oregon schools.....

I personally love it, because well.....I am a homer in this instance....lol

[ggp]

Can you tell me more about Poyer? I am toying with a mock draft and I don't seem to have much information on him. I think we need to draft a CB. I don't want to take one in the first round, if we can draft a good prospect in a later round.

[AUTiger7222]

I wish the Falcons had another Beaver, Matt Moore. I hate not having a proven backup QB.

[Xanthri]

Actually if we can get someone for this year, the ought to grab Cody Vaz in next draft late. The guy came in when starter went down, played fantastic....they went back to starter who was having a terrible game, pulled him Vaz mounted a massive comeback....I don't think he is an elite talent in the NFL, probably would end up a journeyman (or will be a guy who comes in on an injury and makes a HUGE splash, then gets paid to go to a team with no o-line.......and then fades fast....)

Point is behind a great QB, he would learn and be able to come in....who knows maybe he will have the talent....the guy has that winner attitude.....not an option guy, but his leadership reminds me of a Russell Wilson type guy....

[Xanthri]

(03-18-2013 03:30 PM)ggp Wrote:  Can you tell me more about Poyer? I am toying with a mock draft and I don't seem to have much information on him. I think we need to draft a CB. I don't want to take one in the first round, if we can draft a good prospect in a later round.

Poyer has a nose for the ball....here is a good article....

Jordan Poyer, CB, Oregon State
Height: 6-0. Weight: 191. Arm: 30 5/8. Arm: 9 1/2.
40 Time: 4.54.
Projected Round (2013): 2-3.
3/9/13: Poyer didn't stand out at the Combine, but he has some fans in the scouting community and looks likely to go on the second day.

Poyer was solid, but unspectacular, at the Senior Bowl. He played really well this year, and it got off to a fast start with a great outing against Wisconsin. Poyer had three tackles, a sack, a forced fumble and a pass broken up to help the Beavers upset the Badgers. He snagged three interceptions against Washington State.

Poyer missed the game versus Arizona State with a sprained posterior cruciate ligament in his right knee. The senior came back to play against Stanford, but had a mixed outing.

Poyer totaled 51 tackles, seven interceptions, five tackles for a loss, one forced fumble, one sack and seven passes broken up in 2012. He was tied for second in the nation in interceptions. His pass coverage was extremely good this year, but he needs to improve his run defense.

9/1/12: Poyer has been an impact player for Oregon State the past few seasons on defense and special teams. He had his best year with 57 tackles, four interceptions and 12 passes broken up last season. The junior also averaged 22.7 yards per kick return and 14.1 yards per punt return.

Poyer had 34 tackles, two interceptions and four passes broken up as a sophomore in 2010. He averaged 27 yards per kick return and 9.5 yards per punt return.

Poyer has steadily improved his coverage as a cornerback and could rise up higher with a strong 2012 season. He is a good athlete and played some baseball for the Beavers before deciding to focus on football. Poyer is a talented prospect with upside.


What it doesn't say is that he has those leadership qualities that you look for....I think if we don't draft him in the second he won't be there at our spot in the third. We might be able to drop down 10-14 slots (drop our second for a third and a kicker pick that we can package later (if this year) or an extra pick for next year.

Poyer isn't your superstar guy coming out of college....he is a solid player who I do not think will disappoint with his heart, leadership, and play on the field - He has improved ever year he has played so put him with an Asante Samuel for a year of tutoring and you very well might have a very servicable player for years to come.....