(03-25-2011 08:48 PM)Beef Wrote: See, this is going nowhere & now you're even stepping over the line. It's pretty damn arrogant of you to infer my beliefs comprise an acceptance of abuse against women. No insult I've made on these forums has ever come close to that level of abhorrence. I'd say you should be ashamed, but I know that's futile.
Here's a clue... Not everyone is perfect, some people are bad, some people lie, some people do terrible things in the name of self-preservation & some do even worse simply because they're fucking evil. Not everyone is worth saving because some can't & don't want to be saved. And ultimately, you nor I knows the truth & where any of these people in this story belong.
As a result, I choose to not be on a side & not assume anything & only talk about what I do know. The girl is a runaway & living on the street, obviously trying to do everything possible to stay alive. Well guess what, wholesome innocent virgin victims don't usually run away from home & choose to cavort with the likes of drug dealing women beating pimps. You don't just accidentally stumble into that type of environment & end up one day fucking Lawrence Taylor for $300 bucks purely by dumb luck.
I absolutely deplore LT for his part in this. I think it's disgusting & I hope his wife leaves him & takes half his shit. But at the same time, I'm not going to feel sorry for this girl when I'm certain that someone doesn't just go from being an innocent child one day to being a hooker overnight. There's a whole ton of bad choices that have to be made prior to this happening. And I don't want to hear about her being a 16 year old. My 11 year old knows right from wrong & good from bad. So does my 8 year old.
Now if you were to ask me what my gut thinks, I've already said it. I grew up in a military family & I learned early on that my actions & decisions are my responsibility & mine alone. My gut tells me she made the choice to run away from home, do drugs, allow herself to be in a position to get pimped out & all the horrible shit that comes along with that, & after she told someone she hooked LT, the dollar signs started flashing & here we are. Could that be wrong? Sure, but even if some of it is, she's still responsible for some horrible decisions none-the-less, so I'm not going to pity her & act like this is all someone elses fault.
Now you obviously do pity her & you know what I think of that. I've been around long enough & experienced plenty to not be fooled by what people say or what's printed in the media. You're welcome to don those rose-colored glasses if you want though.
No, wholesome innocent virgin victims don't usually run away from home & choose to cavort with the likes of drug dealing women beating pimps. Most sex industry workers (an estimated 75%) lose their virginity before the age of 14 as victims of sexual abuse. If you wanna know why an underage girl might run away from home and find herself living on the street doing everything possible to stay alive, there you go.
I highly doubt that your kids have have been victims of such abuse, so it's not surprising that they know right from wrong and make sound choices.
I'm sorry, but any
woman who has been physically abused is a victim. Period. I don't care if she is a prostitute or a prom queen. Spare me the faux outrage over being referred to as someone who accepts such abuse. You've been loudly demonstrating that acceptance from the first time you said of the underaged girl who showed up to LT's hotel room beaten and drugged, "She's no victim."
How in the hell is she anything but?