Lawrence Taylor goes on Foxnews and brings the lulz.

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(03-25-2011 08:48 PM)Beef Wrote:  See, this is going nowhere & now you're even stepping over the line. It's pretty damn arrogant of you to infer my beliefs comprise an acceptance of abuse against women. No insult I've made on these forums has ever come close to that level of abhorrence. I'd say you should be ashamed, but I know that's futile.

Here's a clue... Not everyone is perfect, some people are bad, some people lie, some people do terrible things in the name of self-preservation & some do even worse simply because they're fucking evil. Not everyone is worth saving because some can't & don't want to be saved. And ultimately, you nor I knows the truth & where any of these people in this story belong.

As a result, I choose to not be on a side & not assume anything & only talk about what I do know. The girl is a runaway & living on the street, obviously trying to do everything possible to stay alive. Well guess what, wholesome innocent virgin victims don't usually run away from home & choose to cavort with the likes of drug dealing women beating pimps. You don't just accidentally stumble into that type of environment & end up one day fucking Lawrence Taylor for $300 bucks purely by dumb luck.

I absolutely deplore LT for his part in this. I think it's disgusting & I hope his wife leaves him & takes half his shit. But at the same time, I'm not going to feel sorry for this girl when I'm certain that someone doesn't just go from being an innocent child one day to being a hooker overnight. There's a whole ton of bad choices that have to be made prior to this happening. And I don't want to hear about her being a 16 year old. My 11 year old knows right from wrong & good from bad. So does my 8 year old.

Now if you were to ask me what my gut thinks, I've already said it. I grew up in a military family & I learned early on that my actions & decisions are my responsibility & mine alone. My gut tells me she made the choice to run away from home, do drugs, allow herself to be in a position to get pimped out & all the horrible shit that comes along with that, & after she told someone she hooked LT, the dollar signs started flashing & here we are. Could that be wrong? Sure, but even if some of it is, she's still responsible for some horrible decisions none-the-less, so I'm not going to pity her & act like this is all someone elses fault.

Now you obviously do pity her & you know what I think of that. I've been around long enough & experienced plenty to not be fooled by what people say or what's printed in the media. You're welcome to don those rose-colored glasses if you want though.

I think there's a good chance the girl was a prostitute who saw dollar signs. I don't trust media reporting of hardly anything.

However, I think you have a naive view of the sex trade. Lots of these kids didn't have a lot of choices to make. Many were abused sexually and beaten by a father or stepfather, with a mother who wouldn't defend them and had to get out, at 13, or 14, or 15. There aren't a lot of right choices if your parents are horrible people and hang you out to dry.

Once there, we've all seen how much more it costs to live than it seems. And again, there are few choices. Many, in that situation, will take to hooking, as it's the only means of money, and they'll try to pretend it's what they want, out of a need to feel control or power over some part of their lives.

A lot of people out there doing that have been sexually abused, and it does a horrible number. Be around a few of these people and you'll see how it crushes a part of them for life, and really alters their world view.

Now imagine, you've tried to strike out for yourself, get away from your parents, and you turned one trick, or got in with a guy who you thought was your boyfriend, but then starts getting you to sleep with his "friend" for money (often how these things start out)...what do you do? You're emotionally a mess, you don't have a place to live if you leave him, you can't go back home to your abusive dad, you're out of good choices.

I'm all for personal responsibility, but I grew up poor and saw people whose choices were to quit school at 14 to support their family because their mother was injured, or ignore their mother and two younger sisters and "go get theirs" by getting an education. I respect the man who stops at 14 and supports his family by working 15 hours a day. But that man is doomed to poverty because he lacks an education, and his back will probably be shot in 10 years.

This girl may well have just seen dollar signs afterward...and honestly, that was my first thought as well. It's just that I don't like everything being attributed to bad choices. As much as America is a land of freedom and all of that, some poor kids simply are left with choices, but none of them good. I've known these people and feel for the ones I don't know. When I first started being around middle class people, and seeing how hard it was for them to mess up, and how hard it was for people I grew up with to get out....I started to understand how people think we all have all these choices. They had them. It doesn't mean everyone did. I know it's hard to imagine a world where your dad was never around, your mom made minimum wage, and if the car broke down she lost her job and everyone went hungry...and that's if the mom was a good woman and stood behind her responsibilities...but a lot of people live that way. They're generally the ones who end up at these places.