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**kibitzer** · 11-17-2010, 11:05 PM

(11-17-2010 10:56 PM)zigg zagg Wrote: i should have said it isnt a guaranteed recipe for success, that would have been a more accurate representation of my feelings. look at notre dame. they will NEVER AGAIN compete for a national championship with their ridgid academic and character standards. NEVER. those days are over. every team thats won a super bowl has had questionable characters even the righteous colts pats and steelers.

That makes more sense. There's pimps and dope dealers living in Atlanta Country Club. So, I don't necessarily disagree w/your statement, if that's one's measure of success for example. But bad character traits almost always come home to roost. I would rather make a run for success with good character traits than bad ones. And I would go as far as to say that, overall, the chances of achieving success are greater w/the possession of good character traits, than bad ones.

~~zigg zagg~~ · 11-17-2010, 11:24 PM

(11-17-2010 11:05 PM)kibitzer Wrote: That makes more sense. There's pimps and dope dealers living in Atlanta Country Club. So, I don't necessarily disagree w/your statement, if that's one's measure of success for example. But bad character traits almost always come home to roost. I would rather make a run for success with good character traits than bad ones. And I would go as far as to say that, overall, the chances of achieving success are greater w/the possession of good character traits, than bad ones.

im not saying rush out and sign lawrence philips and rae carruth im just saying lets not pass up a bryant or cromartie because they have 8 baby mommas or something insignificant like that. the pats had the best year in nfl history offensively with one of the most polarizing figures in nfl history. if randy moss is able to be a cancer in your locker room then your locker room chemistry sucks to begin with. same with t.o.

Expat Bachelor · 11-17-2010, 11:25 PM

(11-17-2010 07:42 PM)pencilpusher Wrote: Dude can sleep with my girl during meetings as long as he shows up game day like he has.

My opinion is a successful org should not risk first round picks on players like him. He has all the talent but can you count on him? That is why they are boom or bust players. For every one that pans out there is another that busts and those bust kill a team long term.
Even though Dez had a couple good games, odds are with his attitude he will run into trouble at some point. Do you really want our young players seeing the first round pick sleeping and half assing? That shit is contagious.

~~zigg zagg~~ · (This post was last modified: 11-17-2010 11:50 PM by zigg zagg.)

(11-17-2010 11:25 PM)Expat Bachelor Wrote: My opinion is a successful org should not risk first round picks on players like him. He has all the talent but can you count on him? That is why they are boom or bust players. For every one that pans out there is another that busts and those bust kill a team long term.
Even though Dez had a couple good games, odds are with his attitude he will run into trouble at some point. Do you really want our young players seeing the first round pick sleeping and half assing? That shit is contagious.

id rather take a risk on an explosive player like bryant than the risk of players like baker and jerry who both dropped down draft boards because of concerns about injuries. i like tds attempt to strike gold with risky picks but so far he hasnt done so hot. i like moore and think he will be able to defy this trend and i was all aboard the spoon pick so dont take me as anti-td. picking bryant for character concerns isnt any worse than the baker or jerry picks is all im saying.

i dont for one minute regret the spoon pick though. not a bit.